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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

Administrator changes Cabayi • Lee Vilenski Boing! said Zebedee Jonny-mt • MarkGallagher • PeaceNT Money emoji → Moneytrees Bureaucrat changes SilkTork • WereSpielChequers

CheckUser changes NativeForeigner Oversight changes Someguy1221 Daniel Case

Guideline and policy news

• There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.

Technical news

• There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.

Arbitration

• Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.

Miscellaneous

• The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.

Hi 28 bytes,

I hope all is well with you, with all the nonsense in the world. While with ton of free time I decided to spend some time on an article of a subject that I like.

Since you are an admin, I'd figure I'd ask you.

I happen to take some time with the article of the shortest leading men in film history who also happens to be a death defying stunt performer and a first rate martial artist named Weng Weng. Philippines' first international celebrity in the 1980s... One of these unreal page.

For years while notable no information on the subject was available, so a lot of unreal stuff was made up about him and became mythos, while other unreal stuff said about him is true. I wrote in a section for the "debunked and truth".

Eventually a documentary and a book on the subject came along. I own both and are my prime source of citations. The author is now considered a film historian and his work is accepted by academia since he is now a lecturer on Filipino film history. I own them both and decided to help with this page that was in dire need of citations while old rumors where published as fact.

A lot of information on Weng Weng are accounts by his family, former co-worker, and friends. No interviews with the subject have survived the passing of time, so it's accounts and recollections by others. In regards to subjects intelligence some say he was slow while others said he was normal. I try to be fair and show both sides of the story.

I usually say who said what, but on several occasion I forgot and write "it is said", by not mentioning whom. Which was a complaint that other editor had in which he may be right.

Below are links in the history section, so you can compare my cut to his.

This what the article looks upon my last edit when I reverted back to mine. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weng_Weng&diff=949681733&oldid=949661936

This is all the stuff he is accusing me of doing. Is there any truth to it? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weng_Weng&diff=prev&oldid=949661936

That other user also in an earlier re-cut removed all the subheading, which is the standards I see in all the featured article regarding media bios. So I don't think he knows what he is doing in media bios. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weng_Weng&diff=next&oldid=946494330

While the word "crap" isn't such big deal, I do feel that using this language while editing is emotional nonsense. I am guilty of that in the past, but this person was here for 14 years according to his intro page. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Weng_Weng&diff=949660964&oldid=949658447

That user wrote me on my talk page and I wrote him back. If I find a reasonable agreement with this user or he just leaves fine, but if not I thought I would let you know in case it reaches new heights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Filmman3000#April_2020

Also the user continues to reverts my edits instead of continuing the conversation he started on my talk page, to show me example of any wrongdoing or refuting my counter points.

If there is any wrongdoing or wrong-editing on my part please let me know. I personally can't think of any, but who knows...

Thank you for your time.Filmman3000 (talk) 16:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Filmman3000. I am no longer an administrator and do not have enough time available this week to take a look. Perhaps a friendly talk page stalker could help you. 28bytes (talk) 18:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Very kind of you, I have ran into troubles at random moments since I first became an editor. So I did my fair share of mistake but never one glued so much tags on a place I work. I am quite baffled. I have asked another user who I think is reasonable, but not an admin.

I never heard the term page stalker... But if the problem persist I will let you know.

or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy Easter, Gerda! 28bytes (talk) 19:06, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I admit, of the two hooks, only the first one is "real", the other would have been, but between his death and Easter, there wasn't enough time, - so the work will come some day with a different hook. It's sad work but in a way rewarding to remember those who died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).

Administrator changes

Gnangarra • Kaisershatner • Malcolmxl5

CheckUser changes

Callanecc

Oversight changes

HJ Mitchell

Guideline and policy news

• Discretionary sanctions have been authorized for all pages and edits related to COVID-19, to be logged at WP:GS/COVID19.
• Following a recent discussion on Meta-Wiki, the edit filter maintainer global group has been created.
• A request for comment has been proposed to create a new main page editor usergroup.
• A request for comment has been proposed to make the bureaucrat activity requirements more strict.

Technical news

• The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. You can review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.
• Enterprisey created a script that will show a link to the proper Special:Undelete page when viewing a since-deleted revision, see User:Enterprisey/link-deleted-revs.

Miscellaneous

• A request for comment closed with consensus to create a Village Pump-style page for communication with the Wikimedia Foundation.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).

Administrator changes

CaptainEek • Creffett • Cwmhiraeth

Anna Frodesiak • Buckshot06 • Ronhjones • SQL

CheckUser changes

SQL

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment asks whether the Unblock Ticket Request System (UTRS) should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
• The Wikimedia Foundation announced that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open local discussion regarding the same.

Arbitration

• A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

Hello! I've noticed that the page for John R. Palmer has been deleted for a lack of notability and has been protected. My problem is that I've been working on a page for a different person by the name of John R. Palmer, a Michigan state representative. I was wondering if you could get rid of the protection on this page so that I may create an article for this unrelated John R. Palmer, or if not, what I should do going forward. RoundSquare (talk) 18:26, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi RoundSquare. I'm no longer an admin, so I can't unprotect it, but you could put in a request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. 28bytes (talk) 03:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for showing me where to go. RoundSquare (talk) 03:35, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Glad to help! 28bytes (talk) 03:43, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).

Administrator changes Malcolmxl5 John • TheCoffee • Tim! Creffett → GeneralNotability DeltaQuad → AmandaNP

CheckUser changes Bbb23 Interface administrator changes TonyBallioni

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.

Technical news

• Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).

Arbitration

• Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community.
• The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).

Administrator changes

Red Phoenix

Euryalus • SQL

Jujutacular • Monty845 • Rettetast • Madchester

Oversight changes

GB fan

Keegan • Opabinia regalis • Premeditated Chaos

Guideline and policy news

• There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
• Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
• Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
• There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.

August

MP 24 August has one of "my places" (click on August) pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Very nice. I took a picture of a bumblebee on a zinnia this morning, perhaps I should upload it for others to enjoy. 28bytes (talk) 23:32, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

That seems a good idea, let me know when you do please. Thank you for a click on the chapel, it made the stats ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Rhythm Is It! - I expanded that stub on my dad's birthday because we saw the film together back then, and were impressed. As a ref said: every educator should see it. Don't miss the trailer, for a starter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).

Administrator changes

Eddie891

Angela • Jcw69 • Just Chilling • Philg88 • Viajero

CheckUser changes

SQL

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
• A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors must or should use the articles for creation process.
• A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.

Arbitration

• A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
• An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.

Greetings played by Moop Mama, more on my talk, or the Main page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).

Administrator changes

Ajpolino • LuK3

Jackmcbarn

Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM

There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely 1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created.

Technical news

• The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (phab:T261630).

Arbitration

• The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
• Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.

Miscellaneous

• The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
• Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.

Awesome

Ten years!

Don't miss my talk today. Darwinbish tried to take the apples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 16 October 2020 (UTC) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:31, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

October

Beautiful Main page today, don't miss the pic by a blocked user (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), nor a related video, interviews mostly German, but music and scene. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).

Administrator changes John M Wolfson Bduke • Nilfanion • Philosopher • Rspeer • Yunshui Interface administrator changes Ragesoss TonyBallioni

CheckUser changes EdJohnston • Oshwah • Yamla Yunshui Oversight changes Anarchyte Yunshui

Guideline and policy news

• Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.

Technical news

• Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
• Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
• Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.

Arbitration

• The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
• The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.

Miscellaneous

• A reminder that standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people. (American Politics 2 Arbitration case).

November

look! - ever so proud of the little article which is my DYK 1500 and relates to DYK 1 - by sheer coincidence! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Miss you, 28bytes. Come back whenever you have the time or interest! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Liz! 28bytes (talk) 03:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh, wow, you came back for a visit! Awesome, 28bytes! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

look for bright memories - I mentioned you here, 28bytes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020).

Administrator changes

Andrwsc • Anetode • GoldenRing • JzG • LinguistAtLarge • Nehrams2020

Interface administrator changes

Izno

Guideline and policy news

• There is a request for comment in progress to either remove T3 (duplicated and hardcoded instances) as a speedy deletion criterion or eliminate its seven-day waiting period.

Technical news

• Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.

Arbitration

• Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! 28bytes (talk) 22:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello 28bytes: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:32, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2020).

Administrator changes Hammersoft Andres • Brion VIBBER • Rkitko • Thatcher

CheckUser changes Barkeep49 • BDD • CaptainEek • Primefac Oversight changes Barkeep49 • BDD • CaptainEek Joe Roe

Guideline and policy news

• Speedy deletion criterion T3 (duplication and hardcoded instances) has been repealed following a request for comment.

Technical news

• You can now put pages on your watchlist for a limited period of time.

Arbitration

• By motion, standard discretionary sanctions have been temporarily authorized for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes). The effectiveness of the discretionary sanctions can be evaluated on the request by any editor after March 1, 2021 (or sooner if for a good reason).
• Following the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, BDD, Bradv, CaptainEek, L235, Maxim, Primefac.

That's a rookie mistake. Why they let newbies like us edit at all is beyond me. --Floquenbeam (talk) 04:05, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Can’t forget those hashtags! I figured the odds I’d accidentally wipe 5 other comments in an edit conflict were 50/50, so I’m counting it as a #win. 28bytes (talk) 04:18, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

I tried to give 2021 a good start by updating the QAI project topics. Please check and correct, please check especially if the infoboxes passage works (which dates back mostly to 2020). - For moar private "happy new year" see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy Wikipedia 20, proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

... and today of a pic I took --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Today see Vision pictured (not by me), with Arik Brauer in the news, so art in Vienna twice --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

... and today Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).

Administrator changes Hog Farm Mattflaschen • Nandesuka • Savidan • Wangi

CheckUser changes Berean Hunter • Xeno Oversight changes Someguy1221 • Xeno

Arbitration

• The standard discretionary sanctions authorized for American Politics were amended by motion to cover post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people, replacing the 1932 cutoff.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2021 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2021, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2021, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• Wikipedia has now been around for 20 years, and recently saw its billionth edit!

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

TJMSmith

Boing! said Zebedee • Hiberniantears • Lear's Fool • Only • WGFinley

Interface administrator changes

AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
• A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect.
• A request for comment asks if sysops may place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?
• There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

Technical news

• When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
• When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
• There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

Arbitration

• By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
• The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.

Miscellaneous

• Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 2020 American coup attempt. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 16#2020 American coup attempt until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:04, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey, just popping by to say that it’s good to see you around. I haven’t been super active on Wikipedia recently, but pop by on occasion. Hope all is well. Montanabw^(talk) 07:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Good to hear from you! 99% of my Wikipedia time recently has been reading articles (and the occasional noticeboard discussion), but I’m doing well. Hope you are too! 28bytes (talk) 12:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

I, too, came across your recent edits. It would be nice to see you back but, whatever you choose, I hope you are well. Cheers! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:47, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Liz! Good to hear from you. Life is keeping me pretty busy these days but I do pop in once in a while. :) 28bytes (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Hopping on the aloha train. Hope you're doing well! Shubinator (talk) 00:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Shubinator! Good to see you as well. 28bytes (talk) 00:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

• When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
• Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

• A community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure is open until April 25.

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

Enchanter • Carlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, consensus was found that third party appeals are allowed but discouraged.
• The 2021 Desysop Policy RfC was closed with no consensus. Consensus was found in a previous RfC for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.

Technical news

• The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

• The community consultation on the Arbitration Committee discretionary sanctions procedure was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.