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Sorry. I'm really antisocial and I don't usually bother talking to anyone about changes. Mirtazapine (as well as mianserin and setiptiline) may be tetracyclics, but they're very closely related to tricyclics as well and are usually grouped together with them, hence why I put them in the tricyclics article and template. Also, I consider tricyclics to encompass tetracyclics, as tetracyclics indeed contain three touching rings of atoms (plus one more of course). el3ctr0nika (Talk | Contribs) 12:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I was discussing ulipristal acetate as an emergency contraceptive over at Vagina Pagina and mentioned that it can also be used as an abortifacient. It was suggested that ulipristal acetate was my source (it says ulipristal acetate is "embryotoxic") but that the claim was not sourced. I found that you supplied the information[1]. Is the source here? I see that on page 16 of that source, ulipristal acetate is called embryotoxic to rates and rabbits. If so, do you mind adding that note? I suppose I could do it myself, but pharmocology is not my area of expertise.
I added a bit to the section about pregnancy, trying to clarify the differences between "trying to use it as abortificant", "possible use as a working abortificant", "embryotoxicity" and "teratogenesis": That some abortions occurred which could or could not be caused by Ellaone has nothing to do with the question whether it would actually work fine as an abortificant. Can you tell me what you think of my additions? Also, could you point me to your discussion on Vagina Pagina? Thanks --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 21:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
The additions are informative! I'm glad you went to the trouble. I'm wondering about this sentence: "It is unlikely that the drug could effectively be used as an abortificant, since it is used in much lower doses than the roughly equipotent mifepristone." Is that explained in your source? Like, how "unlikely" is it? And when you say it's "used in much lower doses than the equipotent mifepristone," it seems like that's more about Ellaone specifically than ulipristal acetate generally. There might be a better way to word it. And is it lower than the dose of mifepristone as an ECP or for abortions or what? Maybe mentioning the actual dosages for common uses might be helpful?
Yes, I was thinking of the drug, not the substance. Maybe ulipristal acetate could be used as an abortificant if another drug containing a higher dose of this substance were developed – with new clinical trials and all. It is unlikely that Ellaone could be used as an abortificant since 1. the dose is lower (30 mg) than Mifegyne for abortion (600 mg), and 2. of the 29 pregnancies despite taking Ellaone, only 6 abortions were reported. Since my background is in pharmacy, not English: could you help with rephrasing the Pregnancy section of the article?
Thank you for the link. I don't quite understand why people are happy about Ellaone (perhaps because I'm a man). The only advantage seems to be that it can be used five days after sexual intercourse, and why would a woman wait that long before asking a doctor for an emergency contraceptive? On the other hand, there are no good data about abortion induction, teratogenicity etc. and we already have the extensively studied levonorgestrel.
There are any number of reasons a person might need/want emergency contraception after five days. Sometimes a sex act that seemed within a woman's risk tolerance at the time doesn't seem so a day or so later. Sometimes schedules are not accommodating and doctor's offices aren't open on weekends and holidays. And for women taking hormonal birth control, sex on the placebo week is only protected if the next pack is started on time. If she forgets to start her next pack or is unable to refill her prescription on time, she may choose emergency contraception in case there are still viable sperm in her reproductive tract and she ovulates quickly.
It might turn out that Ellaone isn't enough better than Plan B to make the switch. But we only know that after we do the studies. What looked good to me was that ulipristal acetate was able to delay ovulation at a later stage than levonorgestrel. This might turn out to be important for women who were particularly close to ovulating when they had unprotected sex. Women who are less close to ovulating are in less need of emergency contraception, since there's a greater chance that all the sperm will die before they meet the egg. Of course, I would expect this to play out with ulipristal acetate being more effective than levonorgestrel even in the first couple days after intercourse, since the relevant factor would be the woman's cycle, not the sex act. As far as I can tell, the data do not actually show this. So maybe levonorgestrel will continue to be the drug of choice. That's fine with me.
I think the pregnancy section looks good. The part about 6 of the 29 is a bit confusing to me. Grammatically, it's because of the prepositional phrases and negative. I'm also having a bit of trouble following the point. The word "only" makes it sound like it's trying to make a point about the number, but I don't totally follow. Perhaps a clearer, more objective way to put it would be to simply list all the outcomes--spontaneous abortion, induced abortion, and continued pregnancy. I gave it a shot. NickelShoe (Talk) 06:50, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with that sentence. I was trying to keep a WP:NPOV but obviously failed. Perhaps this was because I had had a rather unpleasant discussion with an employee of the marketing authorisation holder beforehand, who claimed that Ellaone didn't interfere with pregnancies (but couldn't name any studies). Anyway, the section sounds neutral and objective now, I think. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 11:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey, nice to hear from you! I've been neglecting categorisation, too. Would you have time for a re-launch when WP:DERM:MA leaves you a bit of spare time? Cheers --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 15:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
vitamin C edits- I'd tend to err on side of inclusion and later expansion
As a person who often contributes stuffs myself, it is annoying to have people delete a few sentences that are relevant and
need to be expanded. The article is not on merit, but on human understanding. In fact, I may need a reference on "dumb things people
have attributed to ani-oxidants" and this stub is a good starting point there. You are not trying to promote anything
by explaining it or else all of wikipedia would be a bland, politically correct polemic. One sentence about a notability
viewpoint hardly seems to be NPOV or undue weight, a lot of people think vitamin C cures everything and understanding
the origina of tht believe seem to be a reaonable objkective. The term "asset" also seems to be apropos as opposed to
proved or "told us" etc. There are many good reasons for expanding this and few for removing it. Personally, you find
too many appeals to authority in science and on the other hand science if often done with bold hypotheses that later
are shown to be wrong but result in important results during the exploration, not suppression, effort. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 17:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Da muss ich dir Recht geben. Gibt es die Bezeichnungen "Glutaminamid" für Glutaminsäure-1-amid bzw. "Glutaminamidyl" für das Radikal wirklich? Ich ändere die Beschreibung der 2. Synthese auf "...glutaminsäure-1-amid" und die der 1. auf "...glutaminamidyl...", obwohl ich mit letzterem nicht ganz glücklich bin. Ich fände es eindeutiger, die (in File:Mifamurtide synthesis.png) rechte Carboxylgruppe als die primäre zu sehen; dann hätten wir eine wirklich lineare Peptidstruktur. Brundish (Einzelnachweis #6) tut das, indem er den Begriff "Isoglutaminyl" verwendet; aber das dürfte eine ad-hoc-Bezeichnung sein. Bitte ändere den Artikel, wenn Du einen besseren Vorschlag hast. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
PS natürlich gibt es "Glutaminamid", das Radikal der Glutaminsäure heißt "Glutamin-". Kann heute nicht mehr richtig denken. Bitte formuliere die Nomenklatur so, wie du es für am besten hältst. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Die Bezeichnung "Isoglutamin" hatte ich gar nicht auf der Rechnung. Sie ist gebräuchlicher als "Glutaminamid" für das Glutaminsäure-1-amid (meint die allwissende Müllhalde). Die Bezeichnung "IsoGln" findet sich auch im PubChem-Eintrag 24847885 für Mifamurtid wieder. Daher ändere ich es in diese Richtung. Danke für deine Hilfe. --217.85.157.156 (talk) 19:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Noch was: Wo ist beim Isoglutamin oben? Wenn man von der rechten Amidgruppe (der in der Peptidkette) ausgeht, ist es nämlich L-konfiguriert, wenn ich mich nicht sehr irre. Übrigens habe ich das 2. Vorkommen auch geändert. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Gute Frage. Die nicht sehr koscher wirkende PubChem-ID 16219403 meint L=S, wie es auch für 18 der 20 klassischen proteinogenen Aminosäuren gilt. In dem PubChem-Einträgen von weiteren vom Muramyldipeptid abgeleiteten Substanzen wird analog von D=R beim Isoglutamin ausgegangen. Unter dieser Annahme steckt in Mifamurtid also ein D-Isoglutaminylbaustein. --Sven Jähnichen (talk) 20:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I appreciated your answer about orphan tags. I thought that particular query had fallen into a wiki-hole somewhere!
However, still unanswered is my question about orphan tags showing up on watch lists. If I were having them show up, I would strive to improve interconnectivity, and so de-orphan them.
As it seems to me now, orphan tags are easily ignorable, as they seem essentially meaningless. If I stumble across one, I will deal with it. Or not.
I investigated your tip about changing my Preferences. It made no difference.
Your other pointer, to a list against which I would have to counter-check my own 1800-member list, runs into the same problem I already have with the other existing lists of orphans: A) I can either sit around comparing lists while hoping to eventually do some Wikipedia work, or B): I can ignore the orphan tags and keep on writing.
Orphan-tagged articles popping up on my watchlist could lead to some quick de-orphaning, but doesn't likely to happen. Luckily, orphan tags are of little consequence. So, on with Plan B).
Many thanks, Anypodetos. I am surprised there were so few articles on the orphan tag list...but I am NOT complaining (lol). A couple of orphan tags have also showed up since on my Watchlist. Did you tinker with the bot so it would do that? If so, thanks for that also.
Just an FYI. This bot is putting up redirects that redirect single surnames to asteroids (re: Maksutov). This seems to be an incorrect function since asteroids are almost always named after notable people, those redirects should point to the person (or the surname DAB page), not the asteroid named after them. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 17:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes. The bot only created redirects if no disambiguation (or other pages) existed. It cannot know after which person an asteroid is named, or if it is named after a person at all. Thanks for creating the disambig. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, I seem to have invented this term myself. I thought I saw it in Fortson "Indo-European Language and Culture" but he actually used it in reference to aorist formations rather than nouns. Ringe doesn't actually use "Narten" in reference to anything but he does group the lengthened/normal alternations in nouns and verbs together, giving examples of such alternations in nouns, present-tense verbs and aorist-tense verbs. I'll go ahead and change it to something else. Benwing (talk) 03:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Help cleaning up verb tables?
Hello and thanks very much for cleaning up the tables of PIE noun forms that I added. I just went and added a somewhat similar table, a full paradigm of a PIE verb, again taken from Ringe (2006), in Proto-Indo-European verb. I wonder if you could clean up that table similarly? I'm not exactly sure what you did on the previous table but it looks a lot better. Thanks! Benwing (talk) 07:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
I just clicked "edit" for exactly this reason :-) I mainly changed
Thanks again for your help in cleaning up the tables. No problem with your change of "is pronounced as" to "becomes".
I realized that I accidentally omitted the final table in the paradigm, the perfect active. (Ringe's example paradigms don't include any perfect mediopassives.) I have to go to sleep now and don't have time to try and fix up the table the way you've done to the others -- if you could fix it up I'd greatly appreciate it, otherwise I'll try to do it tomorrow. Benwing (talk) 09:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Anypodetos,
I saw that you own the potatobot which does redirects. I would like to have redirects from language codes to languages (e.g. deu to German language). The ISO 639-3 standard handles those codes, and they already have a wikipedia namespace (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639:aaa , which redirects to Ghotuo language). However, not all the codes are in there. For instance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639:aab should point to Ari_language, but that redirect does not exist. My request is now as follows:
Yes, I'll gladly do that, but please be patient -- I'm a bit short of time at the moment. Also note that redirects to nonexisting pages (like Mandobo Atas language) are not allowed, so the bot will have to omit these. Cheers, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 14:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Depending on the time you want to spend on this, you could actually also create the non-existing pages on the fly, based on information found on http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=aax. There is of course a copyright issue there, but something like the following should be legal:
$language is a language spoken in [[$country]] by $population people. It is also known under the names @alternatenames.{{lang-stub}}
I think that scraping the Ethnologue website should not be too difficult. Depending on whether the creation of the articles is approved or not, I can get the data from the ethnologue page and send you a csv file or similar, if that helps. Jasy jatere (talk) 14:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I just added a References section, since the bot recently grabbed some references along with the ISO codes. I hope that doesn't mess with the log processing. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉19:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
No problem, but the bot will override your edit with its next run. The refs should be removed from the language infobox, because they break the external links to Ethnologue. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Isocodes
I have a file with the codes, but I am not sure whether I may post them to wikipedia bcs of copyright issues. If there is a private way of sending them to you (email, IRC, some website), I would be more comfortable Jasy jatere (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
This piece was probably much better known in the English translation, and the London and Broadway productions were the most famous productions of the piece. Indeed, the fact that German Wikipedia doesn't even have an article on it is an indication of that. So I thought the English name was better to use for the article. This is the case for other Edwardian-era musical pieces. Any thoughts? -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
What about moving it back and starting the text with something like
The Girl on the Film is the English version/translation/adaptation of the operettaFilmzauber, literally 'Film Magic' , by Walter Kollo and Willy Bredschneider. The operetta had a Germanlibretto by Rudolf Bernauer and Rudolf Schanzer. It was a parody of (then popular) silent films.
I just thought it irritating that the title did not match the lead sentence; you've got to read down to the section English adaptation before understanding the connection. Thanks for asking; and please do what you think best. Cheers --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 06:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey there! Where did you find the retigabine renaming information? As far as I know, retigabine is still the INN (and ezogabine the USAN)... I've been preparing an expansion of the article and was surprised to see this move :) (Should I rewrite my draft?) Best as always, Fvasconcellos* (t·c) 19:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
You are right as always. I saw this edit, did some quick research and obviously misread something... Anyway, good to have you back to correct other people's blunders (like mine)! But will it last? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Ha! Trust me, this was no blunder—and I've certainly had my share of those :) I hope I can get back to editing properly soon... in fact, I owe a certain someone a very big favor which is long overdue. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
On August 8, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pflasterspektakel, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
On 10 August, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Affilin, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
The sources look good. I'll only have limited internet access (and time) over the next three weeks, but I will come back to it. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
"As of 2009, medrogestone-containing formulations were still available in Austria..." Are you sure about that? Both Colpron and Premarin plus were withdrawn in Austria in 2005, and I haven't found any other drugs containing medrogestone. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, that's odd! That's what Martindale says—but if a practicing Austrian pharmacist says otherwise, I'm inclined to believe you :) The book may indeed be outdated. Is there an Austrian equivalent of the Rote Liste or something that usually contains marketing information? We should cite that instead. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The Austria-Codex lists all drugs with marketing approval. Issue 2004/05 contains Colpron on pp 1379–80, while issue 2006/07 doesn't contain this entry on p 1696. Unfortunately I've given away the 2005/06 issue. Is this a citable source? Here's the markup:
Jasek, W, ed. (2004). Austria-Codex (in German). Vol. 1 (2004/2005 ed.). Vienna: Österreichischer Apothekerverlag. pp. 1379–80. ISBN3-85200-163-3.
Jasek, W, ed. (2006). Austria-Codex (in German). Vol. 1 (2006/2007 ed.). Vienna: Österreichischer Apothekerverlag. p. 1696. ISBN3-85200-176-5.
Which brings me to a small correction: The official data base lists both Colpron and Premarin plus as "not available" as of 2005-10-01 and as "withdrawn" as of 2006-04-01. The data base is a plugin of the pharmacy's software. I don't know whether the data are available on some web page (presumably not the history, and certainly not for free). --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem – it was just quick and dirty. The article didn't meed speedy criteria in the first place since the PubMed Id makes the substance identifiable, but I'd rather add a bit of information than argue. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for notifying me. The bot created this because the target page contains the ISO 639 code for "undetermined". Bug fixed. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:58, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
On 28 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Medrogestone, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Hey there :) Thank you so much for your input on Talk:Cefalexin. Glad to see someone is still watching WT:PHARM! (I wish we could attract more editors...)
Well, I wanted to have a go at haloperidol (see WT:PHARM#Haloperidol article kind of written like a conspiracy theory), but that will have to wait. I'll probably translate the German page tomorrow. I don't think this will be enough for DYK, however, unless more sources turn up (wink, wink).
Wow, thanks – you have saved my day today! (I had almost forgotten about my ER request, so your message came as a real surprise.) --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 08:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I've thought about that too. The problem is that the section headers in these dabs aren't standardised. For example, AAA links to Ghotuo language from the Social science section, while AAC links to Ari language from Other fields. How should the bot determine the appropriate section?
Anyway, I'll let the bot compile a list of dabs with missing ISO 639 links as soon as my time allows. If the list isn't too long, it could be done manually.
By the way, I'm aware that I still haven't implemented your ISO code list into my bot. I'm planning to do some other things with it (like updating ISO 639:a et seq.), and just haven't enough time for everything I'd like to do (on-wiki as well as off-wiki). I promise to come back to that task. Best, ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Changes removed regarding ella and online pharmacy
Hi, I noticed you removed the changes I made due to concerns about looking like it was a "marketing message." Please visit the cite I included since I believe this is very relevant information. Watson Pharmaceuticals in fact appointed only one online pharmacy to distribute ella. This pharmacy already has a Wikipedia page in place, therefore readers can check the validity of the site. I feel that by leaving this information out, readers are missing out on valuable information. There are many news sites publishing this information and some controversy swarming around the idea that this pill can be prescribed and purchased online. If you would like further information, there was recently a great article published about this in the Washington Post. (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2010/12/controversial_contraceptive_av.html)
I would really like to encourage you to leave the information I added, as I am not a marketer and merely read about this aspect of the newly approved pill and thought it would be a notable contribution to this page.
I see what you are doing with PotatoBot. Good work! Much more efficient than my way. I don't have a bot account, so I have to do these things by hand.
I noticed that quite a few languages did not yet have their color coding, but it looks like your bot will take care of that pronto. Is there some way I can help? --cbdorsett (talk) 14:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
So far, only ISO 639:a is updated, the other ISO 639-3 lists will follow depending on the speed and stability of my internet connection. Do you see any missing colours in the A list? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't think so. Just be sure you have all the combinations covered. I assume your bot gets the new wikitext directly from the hardcoded table, and not from the existing template calls. If that is true, then the bot will catch all the I/E entries that did not get the templates by hand. Do you have admin privileges so the now unused templates can be retired? I think I want to start adding some language families - I assume that will not interfere with your work? Thanks. --cbdorsett (talk) 14:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
The style template accepts two sepate parameters for type and scope; so any desired colour scheme for the possible combinations can be realised by editing {{ISO 639-3 style}} (as soon as the bot is finished). I am not an admin, but I'll nominate the old templates for deletion. As for the data: They are obtained from the Wikipedia lists as well as from the downloadable lists from SIL international. Maybe you've noticed that some languages are classified as extinct now – that's the SIL data.
The problem with the "family" column is that it is a mixture of macrolanguages and actual families. My next plan is to split this into two (or probably four) columns and fill these by bot, see WT:WikiProject Languages#ISO 639-3 lists (your ideas there would be welcome). Also, there is a slight chance that the bot will overwrite your changes, or that you will overwrite the bot's changes, if you edit a list simultaneously. So, frankly, the addition of families should not be necessary at present. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Well, if we follow the format indicated in Language family#Distribution, your bot might be able to fish the data out of the {{Infobox Language}} template on existing pages. It seems reasonable to me to just use the familycolor, fam2 and fam3 parameters - these things can get really wild if you go too far down in the tree. Maybe just the first two would be enough. I think each one should be a link in itself, for better navigation and usability. I think the distinction of macrolanguage should not affect the listing of the family and family subdivisions. So the Arabic macrolanguage and the Egyptian subtype would both be listed as Afroasiatic:Semitic:CentralSemitic. Isolates, conlangs and unclassified languages would obviously have an entry only in the first column. If I think of anything else, I'll drop you a line.--cbdorsett (talk) 15:12, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Grüss dich! I noticed that your bot deleted a number of entries from the Scope/Type column on this page. Sort the column and the affected items appear at the top. I didn't check any of the other pages you ran the bot on. --cbdorsett (talk) 07:53, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Ups, danke für den Hinweis! The database I use has no Scope/Type information for retired codes, so the bot has overwritten the entries with the empty "data" from my lists. I'll fix this today or tomorrow. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 12:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, here is the reason: I didn't check all the entries, but the ones I did check weren't deletions but newly inserted lines (mostly, if not all, retired codes) for which the bot had no Scope/Type data. The next logical step would be to create cross-links to the corresponding active codes (e. g. scc is a duplicate of srp Serbian), but this will take a while. Does this sound right to you? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 17:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm sure you are on the right track - I didn't realize that your bot was drawing its data from another source. I assumed you were just dealing with the data that was already on the page. Since your bot is working off of an independent database, that suggests that the main index to the ISO 639-3 codes might need updating too. --cbdorsett (talk) 15:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
There was no misunderstanding - I created the templates before I was aware you were working on these pages. After your bot is finished, please feel free to nominate ALL the old, unused templates. Vielen Dank. --cbdorsett (talk) 15:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
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