User talk:Cyclonebiskit/Archive2

This is an archive of past discussions with User:Cyclonebiskit. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Cyclonebiskit, I've remove the relisting of Tropical Storm Kiko (2007) because it was only archived five days ago. FAC reviewers are stretched thin, other FACs need a chance, it usually takes several weeks to thoroughly address issues raised, and bringing FACs back too soon adds to the FAC backlog. Please take a bit more time to deal with concerns raised earlier. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Number 21, October 4, 2008

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. This newsletter covers all of September 2008.

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As a result of an extended Wikibreak, I will not be able to work on the next month's newsletter. Other users are welcome to get it together. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Storm of the month

Hurricane Ike was among the costliest Atlantic hurricanes on record, based on a preliminary damage estimate of $31.5 billion (USD). The ninth named storm, fifth hurricane, and third major hurricane of the 2008 season, Ike developed on September 1 in the tropical Atlantic Ocean. Maintaining a generally westward track throughout its duration, Ike reached Category 4 status on the Saffir-Simpson scale, moving across the Turks and Caicos Islands at that intensity before weakening and crossing Cuba; heavy damage was reported in Cuba, which was still recovering from Hurricane Gustav just weeks prior. Gustav later moved across the Gulf of Mexico and struck near Galveston, Texas, where its effects were estimated as the costliest hurricane in Texas history. Further inland, the storm brought high winds and widespread damage, and its impact reached as far as Canada. Throughout its path, Gustav caused over 100 deaths, mostly in Texas and Haiti, and several hundred remain missing.

Other tropical cyclone activity

• Atlantic Ocean– In addition to Ike, two hurricanes from the previous month, Gustav and Hanna, lasted into September, both striking the United States. Tropical Storm Josephine formed while Ike and Hanna were active; it remained away from land and dissipated four days after forming. The tropics were quiet in the Atlantic for about 10 days after Ike dissipated, until Hurricane Kyle formed north of Hispaniola; its precursor brought heavy rains to the Greater Antilles, and Kyle ultimately became extratropical as it moved into Atlantic Canada. At the end of the month, Tropical Storm Laura formed from a subtropical cyclone far away from land; it persisted until early October, when it lost tropical characteristics to the southeast of Newfoundland.
• Eastern Pacific Ocean– The month in the eastern Pacific Ocean was the quietest on record, in terms of ACE index. Early in the month, Tropical Storm Karina lasted for two days without affecting land. A few days later, Tropical Storm Lowell formed and later affected the Baja California peninsula and mainland Mexico as a tropical depression; its remnants merged with the remnants of Ike.
• Western Pacific Ocean– Five named storms developed in the western Pacific, beginning with Typhoon Sinlaku which became a powerful cyclone before weakening and bringing heavy rainfall to Taiwan; there, it caused 11 deaths and heavy damage, and it later affected Japan. The second storm of the month was Typhoon Hagupit, which caused $1 billion (USD) in damage and 68 deaths when it struck China. Typhoon Jangmi was next, which brought further damage and deaths to Taiwan. Two more tropical storms developed during the month; Mekkhala formed in the South China Sea and caused heavy damage in Vietnam, while Higos moved across the Philippines and later struck China.
• North Indian Ocean– One deep depression formed during the month, which moved ashore in the Indian province of Odisha; it caused 25 deaths from heavy rainfall.

Member of the month

The September member of the month is CrazyC83, who has been a steady editor within the project for the past few years. Lately, the user's contributions include maintaining the current season articles, which is the biggest workload for the project. In the past, however, CrazyC83 was very active in writing articles, and was a proponent for all storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season getting articles. Of note was his contributions to Hurricane Juan, which brought it to featured status and later to the main page.

New and improved articles

• There were six new pieces of Featured content : Meteorological history of Tropical Storm Allison, 1997 Pacific hurricane season (FT), 2002 Atlantic hurricane season, Image:Hurricane Isabel eye from ISS (edit 1).jpg, Category 5 Pacific hurricanes (FT), and Hurricane Dean
• New Good articles include: 2002 Pacific hurricane season, Tropical Depression Seven (2003), Hurricane Ekeka (1992), Tropical Storm Emilia (2006), Tropical Storm Hanna (2002), Tropical Storm Erick (2007)
• New storm articles include: Typhoon Pabuk (2007), Typhoon Angela (1995), Hurricane Fausto (2002), Cyclone Graham, Tropical Storm Josephine (2002), Tropical Storm Miriam (2006)
• New non-storm articles include: Ocean Prediction Center, Effects of Hurricane Katrina in Florida

Main Page content

• Image:Hurricane Isabel 18 sept 2003 1555Z.jpg appeared as the picture of the day on September 18
• Hurricane Gustav, Hurricane Hanna (2008), Hurricane Ike, and Typhoon Hagupit (2008) appeared on In the news during September.
• Entries from 7 articles: Effects of Hurricane Noel in the United States, Effects of Tropical Storm Allison in Texas, Cyclone Graham, List of storms in the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Gilma (2006), Hurricane Joyce (2000), and Hurricane Bonnie (1998) appeared on the Main Page in the Did you know column during September.

Storm article statistics

Grade	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep
FA	41	42	46	47
A	18	18	18	19
GA	135	139	147	161
B	96	15	15	17
C	3	98	99	107
Start	208	202	197	201
Stub	9	10	15	19
Total	510	524	537	571
ω	2.87	2.94	2.92	2.92
percentage ≥Less than C	42.5	40.5	39.5	38.5
percentage ≥GA or better	38.0	38.0	39.3	39.8

Project News
Overall, the project has had a relatively uneventful month. One of the most noteworthy events was the selection of 32 tropical cyclone-related articles, that were chosen as part of Wikipedia 0.7. Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. While many of the selected articles are of featured or good quality, several require substantial cleanup and expansion.

In other news, a handful of changes to project standards have taken place. Per a consensus on the project's talk page, the section of each tropical cyclone article previously entitled "Storm history" has been changed to "Meteorological history", thanks in part to Plasticup's bot which preformed the hundreds of edits to execute the change. In addition, a discussion is ongoing regarding the necessity of List of storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, and similar articles for other seasons.

New members

• Anymediaguy
• Pérez
• Jer10 95

♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The tasks you suggested to be accomplished within the article for GA have been completed. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I have improved the lead, per your GA-review. Let me know if you it is up to scratch. Plasticup ^T/C 17:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

On 12 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tropical Storm Karina (2008), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 17:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cyclone! Just a quick question for you...but it has some background, so this may be a bit long. A few minutes ago, Yellow Evan nominated Tropical Storm Lowell (2008) for GA review. I was going to quick fail the article, based on cleanup banners, lack of referencing, some confusion about its partnership with Ike, and some badly formatted refs that I'm assuming are supposed to be named refs but are showing up as errors. However, when skimming through the talk page, I noticed that you had expressed an interest in working on the article...however, this seemed to be more to prevent the article from being merged than to immediately nominate it for GA. I have also noticed in my travels around WP that Yellow Evan appears to be annoying a few people in the TC Project, and his spelling alone gives me the same feeling as...say...fingernails on a chalkboard. I have read the discussions on this article, and it appears that this may be a very pointy nomination, designed to fail.

OK, so to get to my point - Do you have a preference as to what I do with the article? If you have no interest (or don't have the time to work on it), I will fail it, with a quick review noting some comments. However, if you have the time and the interest to bring this up to GA status, I will do a more in-depth review, as well as allowing you some extra time if you need it to bring the article up to par.

See, I told you this might get long! Drop me a note with what you'd like me to do. Dana boomer (talk) 13:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I've left some comments on the review page of the article, but I'm going to fail it for now, partly on the grounds of the edit warring and talk page arguments that I see have been fairly recent. When you get around to it and want to re-nom it, if the article doesn't get picked up within a couple of days, drop me a note and I'll be glad to review it. Dana boomer (talk) 15:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Yellow Evan but Hurricane Hernan (2008) up for FA Featured article candidates:Hurricane Hernan (2008). I supported because the storm history was long but I am not sure. --Kirk76 ^{1854 Atlantic Hurricane Season} 15:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I'll try to get to it later today. Finetooth (talk) 18:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

On 20 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tropical Storm Arlene (1959), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 07:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your 2000th constructive edit. Thanks for your tireless contributions to tropical cyclones, and especially for cleaning up the messy articles around here! Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

If you want to create article work on the 20007 season. Note: Gill, Juliete, and Alvin do not have artilces. 2005 needes a lot of articles. 2004 needs Hurricane Howard (2004). Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 03:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

This are al suggestions you can create Cristnina for all i care. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I'm putting this in the wrong area but I am replying to your comment to Yellow Evan on his block. It's sort of awkward. I am Yellow Evan's mother. I hope you might have suspected this but he is not an adult. He's still several years short of getting his driver's license, in fact. I am truly sorry for any problems he has caused and I fully understand why he keeps getting blocked. But please also understand a lot of this is just ignorance -- willful ignorance, but ignorance. I have been sitting by his side for the past week and trying to supervise his contributions. Even so I'm not quite sure what he has done wrong and I know he doesn't, fully. Since he is really not mature enough emotionally to be doing this, I have made a deal with him not to do any editing at least until Christmas break. Hopefully I will be able to extend this further. I really think he will be able to contribute a lot when he is older and has better communication skills. If you could let other users know this too. I'm sure you all have been very patient with him but I thought it might be helpful for you to know the true situation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.207.189.2 (talk) 18:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi there; I left a related note on your talk page. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 20:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey Cyclonebiskit. Could you write TD 15 (2007)? You seem to be the best at these minor storms. :-) –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 19:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 19:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, if you have time soon, can you make an article for TS Kika? If you can, can you tell me?--Kirk76 ^{1854 Atlantic Hurricane Season} 19:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

TD 15 looks great. I'm consistently amazed at how much storm history you can squeeze out of these fishspinners. I just gave the article a pretty thorough copyedit, so feel free to GAN it at any time. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 21:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Yesterday, I was looking at the edit history of your sandboxes and I saw Elida and Douglas were copied and pasted to the current Douglas and Elida articles. Please do not do this because it destroys the edit history. Next time please move them. If you continue to do so you could get blocked from editing. Thank you. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Ask an administrator to delete the redirect. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 14:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

If Cyclonebiskit is the only editor it is not a violation of the GFDL. If multiple users edited the sandbox then a copy/paste would strip them of credit for their contributions (which is discouraged) but if he is the only editor then it is okay. Plasticup ^T/C 14:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Um, no, he's not going to get blocked. As Plasticup said, if only one editor contributed to the sandbox, there's generally nothing wrong with copy/pasting from userspace to mainspace. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 15:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I happen to live in the Hudson Valley, where we're expecting several inches of snow. What's worse, many of the trees still have leaves on them, so power outages are looking rather inevitable. I think this might be the earliest winter storm watch I can remember. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I saw your post, I live in Northern Westchester and I want it to snow a lot (is it tonight?)--Kirk76 ^{1854 Atlantic Hurricane Season} 22:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking forward to a big snow storm, as well. We haven't had more than a few inches in several years, which is quite disappointing. I expect, like with all storms, this will end up being a bust, and we'll end up on the wrong side of the rain/snow line. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

As an aside, this looks like fun... –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool. We've gotten down to "around an inch". Oh well. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 12:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Will anyone add this two this page and fix this, which is a mess although the first one has been fixed somewhat.Have fun in the snow. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 03:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know im going to do a massive update to the WPAC Ace this afternoon. Im also goiung to place the whole data as i process it in this Sandbox for now. Jason Rees (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the barnstar! Your articles are a joy to review! Dana boomer (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Yup, I saw that go up. I'll try to get to it later this afternoon or tomorrow morning. I'll leave it unclaimed on the GAN page for now, though, in case someone else wants a run at a couple of TS articles. Dana boomer (talk) 20:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)