User talk:DPL bot/Archive 5

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Saw the instructions, still leaving this on your talk page. Nuisance can run both ways, tin man. 13:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

1. Well said. "Listen you stupid machine it tastes filthy! Here take this cup back!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt me (talk • contribs) 01:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I have found this bot very useful and appreciate its notices to me so I may return to an article that was left with an error I overlooked! Thanks. _ _ _ _ 83d40m (talk) 00:12, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Just wanted to second what 83d40m said. This is an AWESOME bot!!! --Zackmann08 (talk) 15:32, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

The reason for my action: The template for the Cleveland Browns was tampered with in the main head office department. I was just putting the right names of those people back in place. Alakazam (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

All fixed.. thanks for spotting this! ^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 18:16, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi DPL, thanks for the message and for the bot which is no doubt doing great work, but is it really necessary to say "Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed..."? This comes across as arrogant and patronising, particularly when addressed at reasonably experienced editors such as myself. Who is "we" anyway? I thought I was a member of the Wikipedia community. Just a notice saying that I've linked to a disambig page would be sufficient. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 12:27, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your help Sir, Shalmani (talk) 23:48, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about the Disambiguation links I unknowingly added to the page Ghalib ki Haveli. Anwaraj (talk) 09:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Ditto the error I made on Lord Asriel ...... and for the courtesy of your message to me.Pincrete (talk) 20:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

ps your message didn't come across as either arrogant or patronising, to me at least !Pincrete (talk) 20:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the Information ! --CultureEurope (talk) 10:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

The BOT message says "Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles."

Not all pages marked as disambiguation pages are merely that. For example Psychophysiology, which includes a paragraph of general definition at the top. There are others like that as well, but I don't have any examples right now.

Maybe use "usually" instead of "merely". Lou Sander (talk) 14:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I keep receiving messages from DPL bot, but the dab solver can't even find the links on a page that need to disambiguated. "0 points on this page" Lbertolotti (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

In fact, "Lorenz", although bears some disambiguations, is the proper namespace for the surname Lorenz. The introduction writes:

Lorenz is an originally German name derived from the Roman surname, Laurentius, which mean "from Laurentum".

which is exactly why I added Lorenz to this article.

But anyway, thank you for your attention. :) --- SzMithrandir (talk) 15:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the disambig notice for the above. She is the only Katherine Ross listed and the disambig page that she is on is not a good example. I have left it as I cannot see how to disambiguate her name without altering the article title!!! Richard Avery (talk) 12:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) You may have overlooked the difference in spelling between Katherine Ross and Katharine Ross. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:16, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Well nobody's perfect! Thanks ;-) Richard Avery (talk) 16:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

My only intention was to add an internal link to the Jim Hall article within the recordings list. I will leaveit for now or until I fully understand the problem.Michaelgossett (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I suggest you click on that link to Jim Hall and see what comes up. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 02:25, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I did that last week and unless ther is a way to bypass the disambiguation and go directly to that sight, I would like to leave it as is. Thanks for your help. Michaelgossett (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Netherzone (talk) 03:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this. You inspired me to be more ambitious in editing it. Torontonian1 (talk) 13:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	done well, I am new to this but I will learn in time jthomas91 04:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC) User: aze0098 (talk)

I corrected. Żyrafał (talk) 14:39, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't know the link was ambiguous. I am still not sure, but will check. Thanks for the help. Sirakshat (talk) 13:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)sirakshat

Thanks for the reference and help its been fixed now. Need a help from u, if u can. when search economy of vellore page in google and in wikipedia as well it doesnt turn up, instead it shows economy section of vellore city page. It kind of jumps to that topic. can u advise me how to sort this out. Thanks again.Sayowais (talk) 13:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

An article with that name doesn't exist. If you remember it existing before, it may have been deleted for lack of notability, and its content added to the section of the article you found. In that case, you'll learn everything you would have from a separate article.

Also, you were talking to a bot. It's programmed to remind us when we mess up, but can't answer questions or appreciate gratitude. I can do the first thing, but I only noticed this by chance. If you have any future questions about Wikipedia, ask the Help Desk for quicker answers. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:04, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice about the disambiguation page Spartan. I ment 164th Airlift Squadron, a unit of the Ohio Air National Guard 179th Airlift Wing at Mansfield Lahm Air National Guard Base in Mansfield, Ohio, United States. The C-27J Spartan that I meant is a medium-sized military transport aircraft. Spartan just happens to be part of the name of a aircraft. I apologize for this because I didn't take the time to check that disambiguation link out first. Thanks again for your advice. OHWiki (talk) 21:17, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I have corrected it. Further can you help me in removing the advertisement notice from the Medha Patkar page because I do not know any reason for such notice. User:Anshul3Bansal(talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't think the bot process is going to be able to help you with that question. Maybe try the Help Desk. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Can i upload a picture? User:Lilk846(talk) 20:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't think the bot process is going to be able to help you with that question. Maybe try the Help Desk. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks for the tip! --AL (talk) 16:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. Its been corrected now. Sayowais (talk) Owais 09:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for point out my errors - I have corrected now the links. Regards Andrea Bornivelli (talk) 10:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for point out my error there - yes, that link should've been Cinderella (Prokofiev) which I've now corrected, so thanks for the note.

--DarkDancer06 (talk) You are welcome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.68.106 (talk) 04:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Not sure if you're aware, but my dablink notification this morning came from an IP.[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 13:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Sonusunny (talk) 12:33, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

DPL bot is editing logged out.—cyberpower ^Chat_{Temporarily Online} 12:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for informing me! I'll remember. Artbunker (talk) 14:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

...again for not spotting a disambiguation link. I'll learn step by step. Travers

Thanks for letting me know of my error.Maxbaby01 (talk) 21:13, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Pied Shrike babbler, now known as White-browed Shrike Babbler (Pteruthius flaviscapis) according to Birds of the Indian Subcontinent Grimmett et al. Second Edition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Shrike-babbler Sona 09:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dibyendu Ash (talk • contribs)

Hi. Thank you for informing me! I corrected it. Girishgullapudi (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I will be thankful to you

Mohsin17 (talk) 10:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar

==List of tallest buildings and structures in South Asia== this list is incomplete. I have added information about List of tallest buildings in Pakistan in this list many times but they delete it. I think Indians don't like Pakistanis. That is why they delete data about tall buildings of Pakistan from this list. I don't know why they do this. This list is incomplete. List of tallest buildings and structures in South Asia The page says there are only three buildings in Pakistan taller than 100 meters. In reality there are 16 to 18 such highrises taller than 100 meters. Mohsin17 (talk) 10:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

You pointed to my edit to the hndis page Michelet, which itself points to another hndis. There is plenty of precedent for a pattern like that. Is that pattern always called out as an error, or was the fact that Michelet is actually a {{surname}} what makes it different? David Brooks (talk) 04:57, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

• It's always considered an error - you can see how R'n'B used WP:INTDABLINK to correct it - whenever we have an intentional link to a disambig, we go through its (disambiguation) redirect to mark it as a valid disambig link. --DPL bot (talk) 00:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC) (JaGa)

Hi, just got this message...

Disambiguation link notification for March 17

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Crimea, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Offshore and Onshore (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject. It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 09:06, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

but... was not me... please check...--Truther2012 (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

It's right here. You did it multiple times. Or someone using your account. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Wow! Definitely not mine. While some of the edits are mine, others (including onshore/offshore) are definitely not. I suspect there was some weird edit-conflict overlap that took place (maybe I accidentally picked up someone else's edits). Also suspect that there was an almost 24hr gap between my edits and previous version on the article that's being updated every second (it seems). Anyways, thanks for correcting this. --Truther2012 (talk) 13:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Plz edit List of tallest buildings and structures in South Asia Mohsin17 (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks like attempted bribery to me.... But since this account belongs to a robot, you might have better luck with an oil can, or a 9V battery, than with a cheeseburger.  :-) R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Page in Dominion of Pakistan has been updated so that they are Linked to the articles about the languages of English and Bengali; as it was brought to my attention here. Thanks. :) --lilpiglet 00:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

	The Oil Can
	Hello DPL bot. You know, you do some pretty helpful (and robotic, might I add) work on Wikipedia. I'd like to donate an oil can to help keep you running. Thanks for all your laborious work, and may you keep on rolling! Mz7 (talk) 15:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited BMO Field, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Rugby (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 08:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for catching my error! Nfitz (talk) 00:09, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi I don't quite understand what your saying about that message left on my talk — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackETC (talk • contribs) 11:27, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I am thankful for giving information that disambiguation pages are not supposed to add with the page But it was only to make it susceptible to their mind (the visitor) that places are of similar name exist at different place. I will not link in my next articles, Again thanks. Rajsector3 (talk) 09:12, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It's not clear which place you meant, but there is a template {{Other places}} that can be used for the purpose of informing the reader about the existence of similarly-named places. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

"We noticed though that when you edited Nemesis (hypothetical star), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Dark Star (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver)."

In this case, my link to a dab page is intended, in the hope that a subject-matter expert will disambiguate it. Is there a better way to handle this; e.g., is there an appropriate template with which to tag my edit?

Thanks, --Rich Janis (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I see that this particular link has already been fixed by another editor, but for future reference, the template you are looking for is {{Disambiguation needed}} (or, for short, {{Dn}}). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Russ; I don't know why I failed to find that template before, but now I'll know for the future. --Rich Janis (talk) 22:39, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry about the unnecessary disambiguation page that I made yesterday, I didn't notice it because on huwiki I'm a patrol and these links instantly turns green so it didn't come to my mind that on enwiki it's different for me. :) Sorry and thank you for noticing and correcting it! nefermiw ^stargate 09:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

All archives one of the main jobs is to restore the stored documents. So I think the correct application of this definition. If I am wrong, then make the changes, I would be grateful. I apologize for bad English. Mixrunya (talk) 13:26, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for disambiguation notice. Hpsatapathy (talk) 10:49, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for all guidance on edits. I find that the figure of electronmicrograph at page on 'Host-pathogen interface' has suddenly disappeared. Kindly, bring it back in postion, as it is necessary for the readers to visualize the matter under dicussionRakeshyashroy (talk) 05:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, DPL bot. ibensis (What’s the Story?) 13:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibensis (talk • contribs)

have edited the Disambiguation link on Aircraft carrier, thank you very much for the notification. Keep doing the good work.

jthomas91 03:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aze0098 (talk • contribs)

Hallo you give me a message with the Bot that a Link in a article is a disambiguation site. But The National is a Newspaper site.--Richard Reinhardt (talk) 09:13, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

	List of Disney Animated Characters
	Hi. I got your message about the James Avery link. When I typed the name, I meant the voice actor. Thanks for letting me know because I had no idea that there was more than one James Avery. P.S. How do I reply to a message on this website? Rmidy1993 (talk) 23:01, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - I have sorted out the reference to Rob Walker which should have read Rob Walker. FClef (talk) 10:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for notifying and editing for many times! Gamera1123 (talk) 07:07, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you! Gamera1123 (talk) 04:03, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, i appreciate the feedback, dlambe3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlambe3 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

The link to Saint-Hubert in this article (which is at the top as a See Also link) is okay because there are unfortunately two DAB pages dealing with Hubertus -- only one of them is identified in its title as a Disambiguation Page. Wahrmund (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Dear Bot, Thank you for the notice re article List of members of the Pan-African Parliament, good catch I have now fixed this. As you are a bot I now include a binary joke for you. 10101101010010100101010010100101. Thanks again The Original Filfi (talk) 09:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

I fixed the link about Jeffrey Lehman. Thank you for letting me know of it. I appreciate it.

Sunny — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunny7338 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thanks for the note on an accidental link to a disambiguation page. SLR Ellison (talk) 11:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you DLP Bot

Arrange your observations, please check if you can, thanks again

--Historiador1923 (talk) 15:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! --Clizia1984 (talk) 09:22, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear DPL bot,

I received your message on my user talk page earlier this morning. In case you do not know what I am talking about, the message said that on my edits for actresses Estelle Evans and Rosanna Carter led to links to disambiguation pages. Normally, I ignore these messages because I do not have the time to look over them. But since today is a Sunday, and I do not have to be at church for a while, I decided to look over what you were talking about. I fixed the problem and just wanted to say thank you for noticing that unintentional mistake. I just joined almost three weeks ago and I am still getting used to editing Wikipedia articles and the many symbols, guidelines, and instructions for using and editing Wikipedia. Hopefully, in the upcoming weeks and/or months I will get used to it.

Thanks again; Mr. Yondris Ferguson (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:42, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes. I put in the link to a disambiguation page on purpose as a hatnote. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your notification regarding the disambiguated link I left on the Traveler (Trey Anastasio Band album) page. I forgot to link directly to the album instead of the disambig page. Many appreciations! Cheers! --hmich176 14:33, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I undid this edit. It says the article has 30 or more incoming links, but it doesn't. If you click "What links here" you get a long list, but that's because of a limitation of "What links here". All (or almost all) of the supposedly incoming links come from the {{Hillsong albums}} template, which links to Amazing Love (Hillsong) not Amazing Love, now and at the time of the bot edit. There are probably zero, and certainly not 30, articles that link to Amazing Love. Art LaPella (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Art LaPella, looks like the link on the template was fixed, but then all of the articles that transclude that template were not "purged" after the link on the template was disambiguated. I believe that DPL bot gets its count from the "What links here" page; if all of the pages that transclude the template are not immediately "dummy saved" afterwards, the links are still going to appear on that list. As far as I know, there's no other way to get an accurate link count. (I believe that all pages get "dummy saved" at least once a day, but I could be wrong about that.) Steel1943 (talk) 21:45, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry that I made links to disambiguation pages, it was not my intent and happened by itself: I just made some links and some of them have pointed to disambiguation pages, sorry.

Thank you for adding links to SDF, SLE, SPLASH, SGLR and ACM.

Meanwhile I have found 1 more person which would be good to add a page about: see [[2]]. I did not add it yet because it' required to convert his own bio to 'Okhotin is|has...' from his 'I am|have'... Please advice what to do or solve the task somehow else, for example maybe there is some page about articles to be added. talk 13:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I was doubting whether to link to Wiktionary or the disambiguation page and felt the latter covered the definition I was looking for just fine. Thanks for notifying me anyway, DPL bot/JaGa. --NFSreloaded (talk) 14:46, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Corrected the same on List of Indian film series
Thanks. (harith (talk) 12:37, 23 June 2014 (UTC))

Apex link removed from the article please check .Vsdongre (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I got the notice for disambiguation links for Historical dynamics and Social Science History Association. I fixed a few of them, but ran into a problem with Urban and Labor.

• The Social Science History Association is a group of social historians covering every topic in time and space. They might write about labor movements for the last 1000 years in China. They might talk about labor relations, or labor negotiations, or labor and government -- there are no bounds on the topic. When I read the dab page for Labor, it was the best choice for visitors to SSHA's article. Is there a way to mark links to dabs so the robot knows it was deliberate?
• For the Historical dynamics page, the situation is similar. I changed projections to computer projections, since that is the most common use of the term for social historians looking at historical dynamics. But it means I have to write a page to explain that use, and then fix the dab page for projections. Many of the relevant articles show up if you do a wikipedia search for planning projections. You will notice that I have many red links yet, too. Some of them are valid topics that need articles. Some of them may need to be redirected to pages, once I can figure out where they should go.
• I have asked some people to look at the pages to see if they need corrections. It will take time to resolve many issues, and to write the articles for the red linked topics, where appropriate. I put the rough versions out where others can review and contribute. Since many pages and links are involved, it was too hard to do it in one step (resolve all dabs and red links).

Kind regards, RC711 (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear JaGa, I want to bring to your attention a bug with DPL bot. I have now twice been "notified" on my talk page of creating an "unintentional" link to a disambiguation page ... after an {{Rfd}} template was placed on the redirect after I intentionally retargeted it to the disambiguation page. Here are the two examples: one for placing the template on R.O.C. (most likely for this edit, but I placed the {{Rfd}} template on the following edit), and another for Contact (1997 film) (most likely for this edit, but I was not the one who placed the {{Rfd}} template; that was done in the following edit). It's almost as though the bot is not realizing that these are intentional soft redirects, or possibly need to know not to message an editor if the {{Rfd}} tag has been placed on the redirect (since the tag temporarily converts the redirect to a soft redirect until the template is removed.) Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:48, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, it should have excluded pages up for deletion. I'll check it out, but I'm afraid it will be a while long time before I get the chance. You may want to opt-out from the messages in the meantime. Sorry about the hassle. --JaGa^talk 02:30, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@JaGa: I'm not worried about it. The net positive of DPL bot's function outweigh any negatives or bugs it has. Thank you for this bot! Steel1943 (talk) 21:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes sir, no problem, I enjoy editing and supporting wikipedia. And I always try to make sure I do the best thing for the site. There's been times in the past i've made a few mistakes editing, but I think i've improved at editing since I first started using wikipedia. Also about changing the Chris Evans link to Chris Evans (actor) I will get right to that :) — Preceding Wikiman103 comment added by Wikiman103 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear DPL bot,

I have a question for you. I figured it would be smart to let a bot answer this question and I did not want to spend all that time at the help desk of Wikipedia. I have been looking at other fellow Wikipedian's userpages, (such as those of Steel1943 and SummerPhD for example) have been vandalized.

That has gave me great concern. I was recently looking at the user page of another member and noticed that their page was locked to everyone but that person. I would like to know how to do that. Could you possibly tell me how, please? Thank you. Mr. Yondris Ferguson (Leave a Comment) 06:00, 27 June 2014

• (talk page stalker) (I did not get a ping) @Mr. Yondris Ferguson: I wouldn't consider it "vandalizing" as I would consider it "a bug in the bot's function". DPL bot is clearly useful, and the bug I reported is something that the bot's operator will get to in due time. But, what I'm more concerned about in your response is your claim that "...another member [has] their page ... locked to everyone but that person." As far as I know, that is not possible. Who are you referring to? (Note: if you are providing their name, I would recommend utilizing the {{No ping}} template.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

On the page titled Constructability (with an "a" in the third syllable) I put a hatnote saying that other senses of (a slightly different spelling of) the word could be found under Constructibility (with an "i" in the third syllable), a disambiguation page. I got a not from this bot saying I had probably unintentionally linked to a disambiguation page.

That kind of link to a disambiguation page is a standard thing. Doesn't this bot take that into account? Michael Hardy (talk) 00:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Michael Hardy: You are right, links to disambiguation page are a standard thing in hatnotes. But intentional linking to disambiguation page needs to be done as described at WP:HOWTODAB. I've changed the hatnote accordingly. Cheers LittleWink (talk) 11:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

@LittleWink: I finally understood what you did, and have updated WP:HOWTODAB to reflect this useful trick. CapnZapp (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

These links were all caused by its inclusion on Template:Albemarle County, Virginia. Once the template change was processed through the links table, all the links disappeared. Perhaps the bot could wait a few days before adding the incoming links template. --NE2 17:35, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

No such tool any longer, because ToolServer is gone.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  02:20, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

• Same goes for the "check to confirm" link as well. 'He's dead, Jim.', e.g. http://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/List_of_captive_orcas --Kevjonesin (talk) 10:57, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Please update the instructions to point to a useful tool, or remove the links until such are available. Thank you CapnZapp (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @JaGa: Just a heads up: it seems like the issue reported in this section needs to be resolved urgently. Steel1943 (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Because Toolserver is no longer active, we can't correct any disambiguation links like the ones in The Lego Movie Videogame. Something must be done about this. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:09, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

You can fix them manually, which is a pain. Click on the link in The Lego Movie Videogame. Once you're in the disambiguation page, select the page you want to use, return to The Lego Movie Videogame and pipe the link ([[right name|name you want to use]]). --Lineagegeek (talk) 14:37, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

• Please fix the toolserver. Otherwise people would start ignoring DPLbot messages. Thanks! --Ekabhishek^talk 10:33, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
  • @Ekabhishek: You might as well ask for world peace. see http://toolserver.org and read the Important Notice in full. R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:25, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

World peace is right there. Seriously, I find this a useful tool, and wished it had been kept available until August 31st to give the owner time to move and update it. --Lineagegeek (talk) 14:37, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm crying a little cry. It's tools like this that were making editing easier, as opposed to the vast majority of tools, which seem to be aimed at making removing other people's edits easier. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:52, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:POPUPS is a useful tool for disambiguating. --NE2 17:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

The bot created a new version of an article about 1.5 hours after it had been speedily deleted. Not being an admin, I don't know if the dablinks template would have applied to the previous version of the article. --Finngall ^talk 23:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Bell Integrator, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. AlanS (talk) 10:15, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I am letting you know that the dab solver for disambiguation links has been modified on dispenser.homenet.org (where the disambiguation check has been redirected to) following the last time I wrote on your page. Just letting you know that. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

	The Special Barnstar
	thanks fo good guiding Mehdi ghaed (talk) 11:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Done, thanks Fpittui (talk) 17:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Greetings, I love editing articles beauty pageants.Jaam0121 (talk) 16:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Whenever I receive a notification from DPL bot I immediately click on the link to Dab solver to correct it. But in this notification there's no link. Without it it's much more difficult to find and correct the error. Can you please add the link back into your notifications? Modest Genius ^talk 14:41, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, none in mine today either. What gives? Thanks for your work! GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Me too just now. I'm guessing the Dabsolver link was taken out because toolserver closed on 1 July, but as Dabsolver's up and running again from a different source the notification should be amended again. This is Paul (talk) 13:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, it would appear I spoke too soon as the thing has gone down again. This is Paul (talk) 21:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Would really like dabsolver back working if possible. Thanks.Prof.Haddock (talk) 10:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Help! I agree - I'm willing to fix them with dabsolver; it has not been operating since the beginning of July and I am way behind! Is this going to be fixed? any chance of retroactive bot?Parkwells (talk) 21:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for pointing out that I had created a link to "untouchables" - in the article Gaddi. I had meant to just put it within quotes - not to create a link. I have fixed it now. I am grateful you pointed out my mistake and impressed you picked it up so quickly. Thanks again, John Hill (talk) 12:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I already fixed them. (N0n3up (talk) 09:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC))

You probably know about this already but, it has come to my attention that on Russian Wikipedia, if you create a link that leads to a disambiguation page, it comes up highlighted in pink, so you know immediately. Maybe that could be adapted for English Wikipedia! WQUlrich (talk) 18:35, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @WQUlrich: A better venue to place this suggestion would be Wikipedia:Village pump. I'm not sure if it would be more proper to suggest it on the proposals board or the technical board, but those would be the best options. (I'm thinking the "technical" board, since the proposal would change an aspect of the English Wikipedia's functionality, but I could be wrong.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi DPLbot, Milesjolly1997 here. Thanks for your message. I have tried to add links to some pages as I have recently worked out how to do so. I have added several links to the Lawrence of Arabia and The African Queen pages but was unaware that some of them were programmed to revert to disambiguation pages. I will see if I can fix the links. Thanks again. Milesjolly1997 (talk) 10:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

I made a page yesterday, G̃, and your bot came along today and tagged it, saying the page linked to "a large number" of DAB pages.

I'm careful about that sort of thing, so I checked, and all my links were fine.

There is a template which I included, and that contains a lot of links to DAB pages. Your bot should complain to the makers/contributors of that template.

Your bot's behaviour is incorrect and annoying. Can you fix it or stop your bot? Thanks. Gronky (talk) 09:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker)There's really no need to take such an aggressive tone, @Gronky: you'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. This is a very unusual situation, and it's not so surprising that the bot's code didn't account for it. Plus, the statement that the page contains links to many disambiguation pages was technically correct, since the template is part of the page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm nice to people. I've little patience for bots. Bots don't take things into account such as the fact that I took care in writing that article. Bots don't check. Bots assume they are right and the contributor can't possibly be smarter. IMO, there's a very high level of responsibility on bots to not annoy humans. ("technically correct" is a nonsense concept here. What the bot did is annoying, and shouldn't have happened, and that won't be changed by a technicality. This bot should be stopped until it is fixed.) Gronky (talk) 14:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

You seem to interpret a statement that an article contains a large number of links to disambiguation pages as a cricitism. It is not a criticism or a judgment, it is simply a statement of fact. As for the bot being annoying, well, that cannot be entirely avoided, since some people seem to have extremely low thresholds of annoyance. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

More to the point: can you please fix your bot? Thanks. Gronky (talk) 16:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

It's not my bot. Please note the first thing I said in my first comment above. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

You should have said that at the start instead of wasting my time. (At the start you added a tps template. I've never seen that before and I'd no idea what that was.) Gronky (talk) 18:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

It's not my bot, either. User:JaGa is the human you're after. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:37, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there some central place where Wikipedians can complain about bots? The process of leaving comments on bots' talk pages doesn't work. Gronky (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

On 'Disambiguation link notification for ...' also add link to exact edit, e,g,.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Swinhoe&diff=620418173&oldid=620418008

Jidanni (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

The DPL bot's requested correction was made today. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wordreader#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_10 Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 15:54, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

thanks my friend for your consideration regarding my edits. i really like it and will try to improve in future...regards--Malik Amin (talk) 14:25, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	thank you being a Hero and always ... Sajan Subba (talk) 09:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for appreciating my help and my contribution to Wikipedia. I'm glad to improve a such known free encyclopedia.

Yes, you're right for the disabiguation. At the beginning, I didn't know that sandstorm and duststorm were redirected to the same Wikipedia link. Paul tk (talk) 14:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello DPL bot,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ksnow for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ChicXulub (talk) 20:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 Hello DPL bot
  Thanks for alerting me to these disambiguation situations.
  I copied a block of text from a sandbox created by someone else, and did not check that some tags were linking to the wrong place.
   Please can you indicate how I can check that disambiguation has not occurred when `I do a copy, as this might happen in the future.
   thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeigelaPen (talk • contribs) 09:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC) 

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Ksnow requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. KJ ^Discuss? 10:18, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

This bot has apparently created the pages Ksnow, Enquire/sandbox, and Template messages/Cleanup/sandbox. The pages have no content in them, and has the edit summary 'removing dablinks template; fewer than 4 disambig links (see the FAQ)' for its first edit. I'll tag all of the pages for speedy deletion. KJ ^Discuss? 10:21, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Enquire/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. KJ ^Discuss? 10:21, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Template messages/Cleanup/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. KJ ^Discuss? 10:21, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

@DPL bot and JaGa: I just got your helpful message on my talk page, but it seems to have a word missing:

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these — DPL bot (talk • contrib • actions • log • sig) 09:09, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Should there be the word 'instructions' after 'these' and before your signature? Comtebenoit (talk) 04:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

 From WeigelaPen - thanks, for pointing out these disambiguations in Pcifastin; they have been resolved today.WeigelaPen (talk) 13:13, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Up till July 2 2014 I got weekly "Disambiguation link notification for .." with (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver) next to each page requiring disambiguation. This was most useful to quickly solve any problem-an excellent tool!! Unfortunately now I just get the page & offending link within it & no tools on offer.

How to fix it?--DadaNeem (talk) 15:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to say Thanks for pointing out the error that I made when I edited the soundtrack section on the Teachers article. I just corrected the error by wikilinking to the article on the singer Ian Hunter and not the disambiguation page. Thanks again.

By the way, I would like to add a vintage 1970's logo of Epic Records to the Epic Records article. How can I upload it rightly and correctly? Any answers are appreciated. Thanks very much. Frschoonover (talk) 01:31, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The links are now longer correct. Thank you for your work. I hope the two articles is so good and thanks again. --Lamontse (talk) 09:45, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi. About half an hour ago DPL bot created an empty page (List of people by 9 Star Ki type)[3] - it seems to be a one-off so I'm not overly worried, but thought you might be interested. I'm about to delete the offending page. WaggersTALK 14:04, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Definitely a bug. DPL bot also created the pages Danmeister664/sandbox, Pohjannaula/sandbox, Kl462/CornellConcertCommission, Colonel Warden/List of military commanders, Seafish1/sandbox, and DPL bot/Archive 3. I've tagged it all for CSD. I've mentioned the issue before User talk:DPL bot/Archive 5#Bug report - Creating blank pages, and it looks like the bot is starting again. The edit summaries are the same as last time: '(removing dablinks template; fewer than 4 disambig links (see the FAQ))' KJ ^Discuss? 15:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

These titles (except for the one in Waggers' message) all look like they are missing a namespace prefix; but the bot would not put a dablinks template on a page outside of the main namespace, so this is puzzling. Leaving this note for JaGa in case it helps with debugging. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Correction: Draft:List of people by 9 Star Ki type exists and does contain a {{dablinks}} template. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:41, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, in case you have a bug, just to tell you this link had been correctly formatted. Thanks. Spicemix (talk) 11:21, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) There was no bug. You linked to National Geographic. Another editor later corrected the link to refer to National Geographic (magazine), which is more likely what you actually intended. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that! Spicemix (talk) 12:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this - I'll have a look at other references to Allan as well. Ian Badenoch (talk) 09:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll correct the issue Kruševica, as sun as possible! Yahadzija (talk) 10:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for catching my error in her filmography. It has been corrected and links to the correct page for the film "Pot o' Gold." History Lunatic (talk) 06:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)History Lunatic

Hi Thank you very much for your informing to me on Derived Category! And I'v already resolved its ambiguity. Regards. --Enyokoyama (talk) 09:37, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I have fixed disambiguation link on Bachelor of Technology--Owais khursheed (talk) 11:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

	Editors Barnstar
	Thanks for the two corrections. J.Bernoulli-->Johann Bernoulli. Best regards. Ignacitum (talk) 19:43, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for the heads up! Path2more (talk) 15:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

i have fixed the link--Owais khursheed (talk) 13:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I received a message on the talk page today on my article pointing to 8 disambiguation pages. The specific links are listed below; Bengali, Presidency College, Successful, Ayub Khan, Respectable, Prestigious, Humanity and Household name I will edit them and fix today. Is there any more? I appreciate your help on this matter. Morahim (talk) 16:57, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your notification that on the page "Three of a Kind (1936 film)" I mistakenly linked actor Harry Bradley to the Harry Bradley disambiguation page. In fact that was not a mistake. There is no page for the actor of that name, so my link was in anticipation that there might eventually be one and all intending viewers of it would need to go via the disambiguation page since there are so many Harry Bradleys. The problem is that I could not guess in advance what the page creator might name the page; "Harry Bradley (actor)" or "Harry C. Bradley (actor)" are two possibilities. If I guessed wrong, the link on the "Three of a Kind (1936 film)" page would remain red. Linking to the disambiguation page means the link is blue and the red link appears instead on the disambiguation page, where it rightfully should be. Akld guy (talk) 20:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your message in my userpage talk section. The mapping disambiguation page is technically correct as terrorism mapping justifies the first part of the section of the page. As you can see, the "mapping" page is semi-disambiguation as it explain mapping relations with various disciplines in detail. When someone moving from Martha Crenshaw page by clicking the mapping link it will give the person an idea of the term mapping. Since specific research mapping article is unavailable it was the only choice I had.Thanks again for your message. Best wishes, --Cyril Thomas 17:11, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

When your bot calculates incoming links, is there a way to disable talk pages? For example Satisfaction, has only talk page hits, some (most) of which are discussing the dab page itself and yes, they should all be Satisfaction (disambiguation) but talk pages are loosey-goosey and we cannot expect to have such formality be required. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:37, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Carlos, can you provide more context for this query? Which bot function, exactly, gave you the impression that talk page links were being counted? AFAIK, they aren't, but if there is some specific message or page we could look at, it might help identify whether there is an exception that needs to be addressed. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The page I just saw this happen on was Violet – here's DPL bot's edit and here's the list of inbound links. Actually, looking at it, I realise it's probably not counting talk pages, or it would have triggered long since, but there must be some namespace it's counting that it shouldn't, because there aren't anywhere near 30 actionable inbound links. — Paul A (talk) 02:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Paul, DPL bot checks the incoming link counts twice a day. Yesterday, there was a link to Violet in a template used in well over 100 articles. I fixed that link promptly, so when you later looked at the list of incoming links, it didn't match up with DPL bot's earlier count. When DPL bot made its next run, 12 hours later, it would have removed the inbound links notice if you hadn't done it manually. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation. — Paul A (talk) 03:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I notice here that the effect of two consecutive bot edits (adding then removing a template) is the addition of one blank line. I'm sure it doesn't matter, because i don't think blank lines affect viewing output, but i just wonder is there a reason for it? Is it an artefact of the process, a feature, a bug, something else? I might add, as a side point, that i appreciate the work of DPL bot; in my ID as User:Kahtar i use its information quite frequently. Cheers, Lindsay^Hello 10:01, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me of the mistakes which I inadvertently made. I definitely do not want to engage in disambiguation. The links that should have been deleted by me have already been removed. However, I did not "erase" the links attached to the names "Basque" and "Tudela" in the article on Musa ibn Musa ibn Qasi. The reason for my not having done so is that I did not see any indication on a disambiguation page that said links would result in just such an error. Once again, I appreciate your communication to me and the civil manner in which you expressed yourself. Be and stay well. Alambre (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Your tag serves no functional purpose. It does not identify where the problems are. It does not provide a solution. Searching further the tool server links that are two pages deep in the links provided, don't work. So how do we identify what links are wrong? How do we fix the problem? What your link DOES DO (what all tags do) is deface the look of our articles and downgrade the perceived credibility of wikipedia. Trackinfo (talk) 21:34, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Assuming you're talking about the September 25 notification, it says the problem is with Sollentuna and Cotham in Masters W50 3000 metres world record progression. Sollentuna has been fixed, but Cotham remains ambiguous. I'd fix it, but don't know where this event happened. If you do, you can fix the problem by specifying Cotham, Bristol or Cotham, Nottinghamshire. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder about Dan Schneider in Victorious: Music from the Hit TV Show. I just fixed the problem. The creator of Victorious, iCarly, Sam & Cat, etc. is the best known Dan Schneider around; it feels ridiculous to me that there is more than one Dan Schneider here on Wikipedia. Thanks again. So long. Jake "JJR" Rivera (talk) 10:58, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I got your notice about my having added links pointing to the disambiguation pages USF and Swig on the Swig Program in Jewish Studies and Social Justice article. I didn't know about disambiguation pages before, and I'm glad to know it now. Are you a person or a bot? Well, even bots like some appreciation... so thanks. And I fixed the problem. Cheers! DimeBoxFrank (talk) 09:35, 30 September 2014 (UTC)