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Hello Asphonixm -- I've reviewed the article and found no claim to notability; merely being related to notable people or working on their campaign team is not sufficient, as notability is not inherited. Politicians need to be elected to national-level bodies to be notable, which does not appear to be the case here. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 15:02, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Notcharizard -- Just for reference, an administrator informing you that you have made significant errors and should avoid doing something again until you have the competence to do it correctly is not a personal attack. Nevertheless I am sorry I let my annoyance at a situation which is not your fault make my communication overly brusque. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 16:07, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Cleanup of erroneous redirects under a title with implausible zero-width joiner
Hi Espresso Addict,
I'm current renaming and tagging redirects with implausible zero-width joiner in their title. I see you declined one of my G2 nomination Hyperbolic secant, which can be compared with Hyperbolic secant to find "%E2%80%8D" in its url-encoded title. However, I tagged it associated with other test redirects created by Uanfala which are clarified in the comment of their creation edits and have been deleted per G7 by Extraordinary Writ, including Other (philosophy) and Polar bear. I hope you reconsider its deletion under G6, as well as ק.
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Hello. I noticed that you deleted Draft:Slice House by Tony Gemignani [[1]] and would request that you reinstate the page please. The page was never attempted to be published as the page was still in draft form and not yet completed for publication. Please advise. Thank you so much. (Please note that the page for Marco's Pizza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco%27s_Pizza was the guideline that was used to begin the drafting of the Slice House by Tony Gemignani page.) Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.190.46 (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello IP editor. Draft:Slice House by Tony Gemignani was deleted for being so promotional that it would be better to start from scratch than try to improve it. I've taken another look and am not convinced to change my mind. Rather than basing it on an existing article, you should read the guidelines for companies and try to identify at least three reliable sources such as books, magazines or (preferably national) newspapers that are independent of the subject and that cover it in depth (not just passing mentions) and make a first draft of a new article wholly based on what they say, rather than what the company says about itself. Hope this is helpful. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Question about draftification when draft also exists
Hi - I've come across situations like at Harsh Katara a couple times now where the article is clearly not mainspace-ready in its current form, but a draft also exists with an identical name (Draft:Harsh Katara in this case). I would certainly draftify articles like these when a draft does not exist, but I'm not sure what the most correct thing to do is in these cases. Any advice would be appreciated! (Apologies for the bad BLPPROD, forgot that any sources prevent the tag from being placed.) Tollens (talk) 04:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tollens -- Yes, I found that out when I tried to do the move myself! Sorry! I somehow missed the note in the edit history. If the two versions were originally identical then I think you can safely (ordinary) prod the later copy, linking the draft. If not, then move this to draft as well under a title with a number and notify the creator to amalgamate the two and submit just one. Hope that makes sense? Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:13, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz -- It's certainly a claim of significance, imo sufficient to pass the low threshold of A7, which is of course lower than the notability standards; as the rubric states: "The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines." Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Georgewashingtonshorse -- Draft:Operation Reconquista appears to be written by someone who is intimately associated with the body. If this is not the case, the way that you can avoid that appearance is to find several reliable independent sources, such as newspapers, magazines or books, that talk about the body in depth, and write a neutral draft based purely on what they say about it. You should also note what Orchastrattor writes above about conflict of interest. Hope this helps, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I saw that you have reverted a change made to request the deletion of an article with sponsored content. I have researched and the first article that was created about this "university" was in Spanish. It had to be removed due to its content. If you review the articles in other languages you can see that the content is literally the same, with phrases plagiarized from their website. In addition, the sources link to sponsored posts in local media. Just do a quick search on Google and you will see several news items that are exactly the same but in different media. Wikipedia is not an advertising space. DianaGarciax (talk) 16:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I saw this comment and I was a bit confused, so I figured best to ask. I had a look at Wikipedia:Deletion policy and the section on speedy deletions says "Administrators can delete such pages on sight". Is that an accurate reflection of our norms when it comes to an untagged page that would be eligible to be deleted under a CSD criteria? If not, perhaps we should change it. Thanks. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 11:48, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey 0xDeadbeef -- Welcome to the admin corps! I looked at that too -- I'm sure it used not to say that! It certainly is the norm amongst those admins I know who work in the deletion area to tag so as to get two pairs of eyes on everything; I often decline speedies from other admins, and have had at least one declined myself. There are circumstances when it is the best course to delete untagged pages -- usually unambiguous attack pages, where it is important to get the page out of public view immediately. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 20:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed my article was moved from user:jedirage/sandbox to Draft:Oluebube A. Chukwu then deleted. Oluebube A. Chukwu is a Nigerian politician, scholar, philanthropist and business owner whom I believe is notable enough to be written about and is worth reading about as the current Senior Special Assistant on Due Process to the Abia State governor Dr. Alex Otti in Nigeria.
I followed all the Wiki rules in editing and properly linked/cited external sources for reference. I was not given a chance to edit as my article was deleted within a few hours of informing me it was declined and I do not even have a draft of the article.
Please can you restore my article as a draft so I can edit it to stop sounding like an advertisement/promotion (as it is not).
On your consulting disclaimer (or more like "un-disclaimer"), I suspect that you are correct that it will probably have the effect of increasing rather than decreasing suspicion. Have you been the subject of claims that you do paid WP-related consulting work? If not, I'm skeptical that it will be helpful. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 09:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding, SMcCandlish. No, not personally; I was a bit surprised at the level of antagonism at the thread on Village Pump (and the action taken and reversed towards Stephen), and thought perhaps all admins should be encouraged to make some sort of disclaimer, but more and more I'm thinking it just looks like I'm protesting too much, when actually I really haven't ever had a penny out of anyone. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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You are aware that G11 speedies have nothing at all to do with notability? Your edit summary here, "Declining G11; not wholly promotional; company might well be notable" suggests otherwise. Fram (talk) 13:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fram: There's clearly a tradeoff between notability and promotion; it makes more sense to delete something moderately promotional which is on a topic that is plainly unnotable (your standard draft on a 15-year-old wannabe) than exactly the same level of promotion on something plainly notable (eg an elected member of parliament). It is a consequence of "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Editing can reduce promotion but not increase notability.
The article in question contains some factual content and sources, some of which might be acceptable. I was trying to clean it up so that one could see the wood for the trees when you moved it to draft under my fingers. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Espresso Adict
Today Mark's 12th year since joining wikipedia.
I have made several mistakes in documenting the biographies of my mother: Bessie Davis Thomas a registered nurse, and profound minister.
I started writing about her life. However I should have read the rules and guidelines of wikipedia.
I am writing you today to gain an understanding of the three most important guidelines to writing a biography. Living and Non Living.
I must start this journey by understanding the fundamental rules ;, policies. and guidelines listed below;
Wikipedia's three core content policies:
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I started a project without the knowledge and understanding of the policies and guidelines.
Thus now I need help and understanding.
I also need to acquire the text I created over the past number of years, and I will not repost the text.
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Request for a speedy-keep
I am requesting a speedy-keep so that I can copy the biography information, save it to my local disk, then I will delete the page. It will give me a chance to preserve the historic info about my family.
Please let me know if this is acceptable, as the page was being written and updated from the memory of my sources. There is no copy of the text anywhere else.
I am sorry misused wikipedia, as I did not read and understand the guidelines and policies
I was the author who created and i did had coi and i wanted to delete my creation. Show me if there’s anything wrong with it or some criteria DIVINE04:59, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello DIVINE -- I assume this is about Sangita Swechcha? It isn't eligible for G7 (author request) speedy deletion because PPPLink has also edited it substantively, and there are also quite a few other non-trivial edits in the history. If you no longer consider the subject notable, you could try proposing it for deletion, but as an article on a woman of colour, it might well be the kind of article that other editors would object to losing. I think the subject is probably on the borderline of notability under WP:AUTHOR, with one novel on top of the two story collections and the edited works, and a couple of reviews. In my opinion it might go either way at WP:Articles for deletion, depending on how hard editors searched for reviews.
I assume the reason you would like it deleted is the conflict of interest? Is that significant? If you've just met the subject casually and have no other connection with them then there may be no significant COI to worry about. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 16:59, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Examine another admin's edit history? I am the author who created this article, and Wikipedia allows me to delete it if I want it to be deleted. I have served on Wikipedia for a long time, and I have never seen an admin deny a speedy deletion request because of being a woman as according to Human rights men and women they both held equal rights. The author who created the article has the right to delete it under Creative Commons according to Wikipedia or Wikimedia policy. I believe you get adminship because you want to follow rules? DIVINE20:01, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your gender is of course utterly irrelevant. I was referring to the gender of the subject of the article, Sangita Swechcha, as is clear from my writing "as an article on a woman of colour".
I think you will find that the author of an article has absolutely no rights over the text once they press save. The edit notice states "you irrevocably agree to release your contribution". Even in cases when all the text is by a single author, G7 deletions are a courtesy, not a right.
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Hello Pear1020 -- I don't think it was an improper nomination, there is definitely promotional wording there, but I think it might be salvageable if independent sources can be found to support some of the statements. It's absolutely fine to take it to AfD and get the community's view on it. Thanks for letting me know. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just wanted to thank you for reviewing the coming week's Proposed deletions. PRODs don't get anywhere close to the attention that articles nominated for AFD discussions receive. The only other editor I know who reviews PRODS regularly to see whether the tagging is appropriate is Kvng and they have received some flack for dePRODding articles even though they typically suggest an ATD like a Merge or Redirect. We could use a few more editors on "PROD patrol". Thanks for being part of our "checks and balances". LizRead!Talk!03:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Liz! We should really have several experienced editors combing through these deletions every week; many seem uncontroversial but others have been suggested by very new editors, possibly as a side effect of the newcomer tasks. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:26, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it worries me when I see very new editors jump into suggesting deletion for articles before they have gained much editing experience. Over the summer, we saw editors with as few as a dozen edits nominating articles for AFD deletion discussions, there seem to be quite a few incidences. In some cases, they were returning editors, ones who had either retired or been blocked and created new accounts, so they weren't quite so inexperienced but others? Well, they seem to find their way to Twinkle and AFD pretty quickly. Makes you wonder whether there is some sort of contest going on somewhere. Thanks again. LizRead!Talk!16:55, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the guidance
Hi Espresso Addict -- thanks for the AFD note on Christian manliness. I'll take it that route when I have time to get it in, unless the IP address gets there first. I've been doing small edits on Wikipedia for a while but haven't been involved in the deletion process before, so I appreciate the pointer.
Hi Carhutt -- Thanks for the note. The different levels of the deletion system are pretty complicated, it takes a while to get used to them all! In general, if you feel the need to write an essay to explain why something should be deleted, AfD is the correct forum, as there you will (hopefully) get participation by other editors knowledgeable in the subject; speedies and prods are both just processed by generalist admins. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to seek guidance on a matter involving the editing of non-English Wikipedia articles.
Recently, I initiated a sockpuppet investigation, which led me to discover an article on both Simple Wikipedia and a non-English Wikipedia site. It appears that one of the suspected sockpuppets has created this article. However, upon review, I believe the article does not meet the general notability guidelines WP:GNG and WP:BIO standards (This one --> [2]).
My primary concern and reason for reaching out is regarding my ability to appropriately tag or edit the article in question, particularly on the non-English Wikipedia site. My language proficiency is limited to English, and I find myself unable to use Twinkle or similar tools on the non-English platform.
Could you please advise on the following:
Do I have the rights to edit or tag articles on non-English Wikipedia sites, despite my language limitations?
If so, what would be the recommended procedure to tag an article that does not meet notability guidelines, especially in a language I am not proficient in?
Is there any additional protocol or consideration I should be aware of when dealing with suspected sockpuppetry across different language versions of Wikipedia?
For your reference, here is the link to the sockpuppet investigation: [3]
As you may see from the edit history, Cigarette has been edited by sockpuppets (now blocked by checkusers) since August 1 of this year so I would not be tempted to lift my indefinite semiprotection. Princess Peach appears to suffer from the same problem. EdJohnston (talk) 20:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Contesting the removal of Princess Ifemide Akinboni.
Hi, I am reaching out on the removal basis of the princess Ifemide Akinboni article submission, the unambiguous nature is not correlating with the nature of the article, Her first name is Princess, she is a gospel singer and with a significant presence on the internet as per the articles linked.
Thank you Jamil-kise (talk) 13:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jamil-kise -- (Re Draft:Princess Ifemide Akinboni) I deleted this for promotion, and having taken another look the text is unusably promotional. There's nothing to stop you from starting another version that merely gives the subject's biography neutrally, using reliable sources independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles or books. As the subject is a living person, you would also need to use inline citations, so that each fact you mention is immediately backed up with a source. If you need help with editing, then the Teahouse is a friendly forum for new editors. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, i did not notice the promotional nature of the article and i will try to create another biographical version, but most of her public information are only on local newspapers and local media, any way out? Jamil-kise (talk) 12:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jamil-kise: Local newspaper coverage is acceptable, if it is written by someone on the newspaper, rather than just copying press releases. Local print or e-magazines may also be usable, with the same caveat. A local television or radio programme (or substantial segment) about the subject might also be useful but this can be difficult to verify. However, just appearing on television or radio does not contribute to notability, unless the appearance was reviewed. Hope this helps, good luck! Espresso Addict (talk) 21:49, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I just untagged these two drafts that you later deleted. I don't see how you can see this personal essay as advertising or promotional. It's garbage and not an article but I don't see it advertising anything. I untagged it because it wasn't incoherent gibberish. LizRead!Talk!01:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Liz -- I was just writing a note to the tagger about these two! I hadn't realised you had removed the tags; I always check the history immediately before deleting -- it looks like we both acted in the same minute. I deleted them G11 because they were, imo, promoting a viewpoint about the risk of scams (which is often associated with sales of products attempting to ward off scammers) and having taken another look I stand by that, but if you want to undelete them I can see that's also a valid point of view. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:35, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Declined A7
Hi! Hope you're well. I just wanted to enquire on your edit summaries on the articles which I nominated for speedy removal. I'm not contesting your decision by any means – but I just wanted to get some insights for future cases. In my opinion, these articles weren't notable enough. If they were about some professional individual or politician, or someone remotely famous, I would understand, but these people seem to be the same as the other 300 people Hamas kidnapped, what makes these articles notable? And what did you mean when you said a non-organised event? نعم البدل (talk) 02:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello نعم البدل -- I was just writing on your talk page when you wrote this message! To clarify, A7 only applies to a very limited set of articles: people, companies/organisations (not educational), web content, and organised events (plus a few minor things like individual animals). So I declined A7 because the articles are about a kidnapping, which isn't a person, a company/organisation or web content, and while it is an event, I don't think it is an organised event, in the sense that the speedy category applies to. Hope this helps -- I think you are looking at WP:Articles for deletion with these if you believe they are not encyclopedic. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Mastashat -- Re the G5 on Okiemute -- G5 is only for articles where all substantive content comes from the sock of a blocked/banned account; if other good-faith editors have added significantly to the article then G5 does not apply, even if the original creator was an illegitimate sock. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think a Nigeria has been so grateful to offer a Nigerian merit Barnster.
For all the good work you have done for Wikipedia especially to Nigerian platform and I, who is also a Nigerian. Thanks so much.
In (Igbo), DAALU... BEST, Mastashat (talk) 02:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am writing to formally request the reconsideration and subsequent undeletion of the page for amray.com, which was previously removed based on the criterion of "No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events)". I believe that this decision overlooked several critical aspects of the website's value and significance.
Historical Significance and Longevity: Amray.com has been operational since the year 2000, representing over two decades of web presence. This longevity is not only a testament to its resilience but also makes it a valuable part of internet history. The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine substantiates this, providing a rich historical record of the website's evolution.
High Reliability and Uptime: The website has maintained an impressive 99.9% uptime since inception, demonstrating a high level of dedication and reliability. This consistent availability is a significant achievement in web content management and indicates a commitment to providing uninterrupted service to its users.
Quality and Integrity of Content: Amray.com has over 26,000 hand-entered links, each curated with diligence and care. This stands in stark contrast to many modern websites where content is often automated or plagued with spam. Our stringent policies against spam and objectionable material have ensured a high-quality, trustworthy browsing experience for our users.
Relevance to a Specific Audience or Niche: While amray.com may not be widely recognized, its importance and value to specific communities or niche audiences are undeniable. This specialized focus and relevance are often overlooked in broad assessments of 'importance'.
Comparison with Similar Sites: There are several comparable websites that have not been subjected to deletion. This inconsistency in the application of criteria raises questions about the rationale behind the deletion of amray.com. A comparison with these sites reveals similarities in content and purpose.
Legal and Ethical Considerations: In the context of digital preservation ethics and the maintenance of diverse internet voices, the deletion of amray.com seems counterproductive. There are no known legal precedents or ethical guidelines supporting such a deletion based on the criteria cited.
Conclusion: Considering the above points, I respectfully request a thorough review and reconsideration of the decision to delete amray.com. The site’s historical significance, reliability, content integrity, and relevance to its audience are factors that I believe warrant its restoration in the digital space.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response and am open to providing any additional information that may be required for this review process. Zeffie (talk) 22:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I understand your concerns about conflicts seeing you have been called out above. I stopped in to work on something I've been a part of for 25ish years that has a really bad page do to wikipedia editors. Amray comes from that era and I noticed the broken link and thought I would post something to get started and then return and make something more detailed. However it seems that on the main project, another editor didn't take the time to understand that he's saying model numbers are the same thing (mips vs. i386) and re-deleted that page too.
Given that the policies are based on "common sense", "media recognition" and an untrained persons idea of notability, I'm going to have to withdraw my request as it's a waste of time.
Hello, I saw on the RfC for LLM usage that you oppose the use of Google Translate in editing articles. Could you clarify your stance? As somebody who likes to create articles from foreign language Wikipedias which use sources in languages I do not have proficiency in, I use Google Translate and check it with another machine translator for accuracy. Would you consider that a legitimate use of Google Translate? (The only published article using this method at this time is Uwe Holmer, but I also used one English source.) Are there any legitimate uses of Google Translate? Thank you for answering my question and have a good day (and a merry Christmas if you celebrate). ❤HistoryTheorist❤01:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello HistoryTheorist -- I think Google Translate is valuable for getting a rough idea of what a source might say, which is enough for reviewing sources in say AfD, AfC or NPP, or indeed for deciding whether GNG is available to support starting an article. However, in my opinion at least, a human with real language skills needs to verify the translation is correct for actually writing content that is sourced to the foreign-language source. This need not be the creator; it's fine to ask someone with relevant language skills to do a quick check. My one experience with German and Google Translate is that a native speaker thought its translation was not very good. (My German is vestigial, I fear.) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response. I usually don't like doing articles with sources other than English, or maybe Spanish and Portuguese which I can read, but I have not reached proficiency in those languages. I read a pretty comprehensive obituary on Uwe Holmer in English and wondered why there was no article. The translations I was getting lined up with what English sources told me, and the translations of each source from each source were pretty consistent. Perhaps I should make article creation an excuse for learning a difficult language like German. ❤HistoryTheorist❤01:54, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I tend just to use English and French, where I can read slowly with a dictionary. You might try working out what details are only covered by the German sources and asking someone to quickly check those out.
It's a great idea to use content creation as a spur to learn to read a new language -- I need to get back to reading French regularly, I'm sure it was good for my ageing brain! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on a draft for Nelson Santana, a Brazilian boy who is venerated there which largely uses Portuguese sources and I'll probably pop a talk page message there (and probably for Uwe Holmer too) just to verify that there's no mistranslation. I know there's a de-5 category, but I am curious to see if there is a more efficient method of finding a reviewer. Thanks for your time and I will definitely continue my language studies to help make Wikipedia a better place (but probably not German ). Is there any good way to ping users who are proficient in German? ❤HistoryTheorist❤02:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have tended to ask Gerda Arendt, who is wonderfully helpful on classical music and I believe is also interested in Christian topics; Gerda might be able to recommend other German natives active here on en-wiki. I don't know a general way but it would be great if there were one, so do let me know if you find one! Espresso Addict (talk) 02:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld19:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Trade -- They don't seem to be claiming the same date of birth, so I'm not seeing an obvious relationship? In any case, unless/until they start repetitively recreating their vanity pages or making spammy edits in mainspace it's not really a big deal. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you look at the references? There is no indication that this person had "chart-topping" music. I was initially going to tag this as a hoax article but I found he does exist and was involved in a crowd-funded film but very little of the information in this article is accurate. LizRead!Talk!02:47, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz -- Agree it is dire but there are sources for some of the material and the claim of charting songs, though not obviously covered in the sources, is neither incredible nor blatantly false. I've moved it back to draftspace; let's see if it stays there. (Fingers crossed.) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:22, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
hello help
Hi! you recently deleted my first ever article Draft: Aya Atassi Khanji - I am new to wikipedia and I spent HOURS on that article and I didn't even get the chance to save a copy of it before you had it removed. I am not being paid to create this article. I am a part of YGL and so is Aya and she is a great individual who has little to no media coverage despite all of her achievements so I was going to surprise her with her own page- I spent hours and hours on it and all I want is to be able to save the information I had on it. How can I access it! Please please please help me- I have no idea how to use Wikipedia. you can also contact me at [redacted] I am very sad. thank you. Nicole Perez-Krueger (talk) 03:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello I just read your comment and I am not sure if I am supposed to reply here or on my page so I am doing both just incase you dont see it if it is on my page. I read the G11 code and I promise I was not paid to write the article. It is okay if you dont believe me and you do not have to restore the article but I do request that you email me or send me a copy of it somehow. In that case, I am able to have a copy of what I spent hours writing and so in the future I can "change it fundamentally to make it more encyclopedic" I have the right to do that so please compromise with me. Thank you! Nicole Perez-Krueger (talk) 04:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will not put anything I am just asking for it as I spent hours working on it and I want a copy of it. this is fair to ask for. You can monitor my page and I can notify you when I upload the new one and you will see that I will not use anything from the original draft I promise. I would like to receive a copy for it thank you- its the least you can do. Nicole Perez-Krueger (talk) 04:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Espresso AddictI will not put anything I am just asking for it as I spent hours working on it and I want a copy of it. this is fair to ask for. You can monitor my page and I can notify you when I upload the new one and you will see that I will not use anything from the original draft I promise. I would like to receive a copy for it thank you- its the least you can do. Nicole Perez-Krueger (talk) 04:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Women in Red January 2024
Women in Red| January 2024, Volume 10, Issue 1, Numbers 291, 293, 294, 295, 296
Please salt Draft:Vyck as soon as possible. Non-good-faith repetitive creations by the same user who keeps trying to promote himself. Doesn't seem to know what's wrong with their own behavior. Timothytyy (talk) 07:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
In a 2020 abortive RfC about citation tools, you'd commented (about <ref name=foo>...</ref> versus <ref name="foo">...</ref>): The quoted form is much less easy to type for those of us working with carpal tunnel syndrome. I never use quotation marks in refnames for this reason. Just wanted to make sure you're aware that <ref name=foo /> works with <ref name="foo">...</ref> and vice versa, so you needn't worry about that. I can't imagine anyone's going to yell at you for doing <ref name=foo /> in an article otherwise using <ref name="foo" />. I sure hope not.
The quotation marks are preferable to exist in the code eventually for multiple reasons. I'm not aware of anyone removing them programmatically; doing that would be counterproductive and futile, since various tools impose the quote marks, starting with WMF's own much...discussed VisualEditor. The quotes won't be going away.
But someone with an input-accessibility issue needn't worry about it, other than in cases that immediately need the quotation marks because of spaces, punctuation, CJK or Cyrillic characters, etc. (The quotes are technically required any time there are spaces, punctuation, or characters outside the original ASCII character set; MW will handle some non-compliant cases anyway, but not dependably for more complex cases.) Your preferred <ref name=foo /> will probably work indefinitely for simple ref names. :-) — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 06:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Women in Red February 2024
Women in Red| February 2024, Volume 10, Issue 2, Numbers 293, 294, 297, 298
An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
Technical news
Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
Arbitration
Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
Thanks for uploading File:Pietro Scarpini.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of non-free use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of non-free use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:
If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified how these media fully satisfy our non-free content criteria. You can find a list of description pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that even if you follow steps 1 and 2 above, non-free media which could be replaced by freely licensed alternatives will be deleted 2 days after this notification, per the non-free content policy. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
Arbitration
An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
Miscellaneous
Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
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