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Automatically detecting Good Article, Featured Article, and Featured List status, and limiting ORES predictions to B-class
An updated version of Twinkle was released. Features relating to the recently-enabled partial blocks include automatic lookup of pages and expanded options for block templates. See a full list of changes here
For users of Enterprisey's easy-brfa script, the bug with transcluding new BRFAs has been resolved
For any scripts that previously made use of the edit API to change a page's content model, a new API module is available: use action=changecontentmodel to specify the new content model of an existing page. Documentation is available: mw:API:ChangeContentModel.
The dispute resolution noticeboard wizard is no longer a gadget, but rather is loaded using withJS and withCSS. See the discussion at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-DRN-wizard.js
Pending requests
A script to help file movers process requests, including
renaming the file
updating file links
removing the {{Rename media}} template (when relevant)
Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.
Miscellaneous
The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.
...commend you for your choice of articles to promote. The more research I've done about this amazing woman, the more I am motivated to help you get it promoted, and while I'm here...when/if we get it to meet both GA/DYK qualifications, I hope you will take the steps necessary to get it promoted to WP's front page. It is more than deserving of being there, and I thank you for affording me the opportunity to be a small part of your worthy endeavor. AtsmeTalk📧22:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Atsme, I'm glad to hear that - I feel the same way, and I'm glad to have your help on this. Let's get it the rest of the way there! creffett (talk) 22:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Ongoing: covid-19 virtual biohackathon until April 11th. Information on how to participate. Instructions to participate are on the github wiki and join #wikidata room. Several Wikidata-related topics are currently presented, such as: COVID-19 Global Dashboard, sync the ICTV Virus classification and Nomenclature with Wikidata, federate between Wikidata and NextProt, use wikibase to align between (bio)schema.org and Wikidata.
Scholia highlights the scholarly data in Wikidata, including scholarly works, projects, topics, and individual researchers, including their relationships and statistics. It encourages further enrichment of Wikidata through links on the "missing" pages.
Job opportunity: Science Museum, London. Research Developer, "using computational techniques to create links between the SMG collection and Wikidata at scale" (deadline: 19 April).
New tool: Wikidata Complete uses machine learning algorithms to read Wikipedia, identify facts and import them into Wikidata after manual check (blog post)
schema.org announced an extension to allow for special announcements with regards to COVID-19. The way to identify the topic as per the example? By using the Wikidata Q-Identifier, Q81068910: Structured data for special announcements
Interactive map showing the spread of COVID-19, updated daily with data from Wikidata.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
There was a problem with user pages not being shown properly on desktop. This was because of a bug. It will soon be fixed. [1]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 April. It will be on all wikis from 9 April (calendar).
Future changes
MediaWiki will use a newer version of Unicode. Some characters that did not have an upper case equivalent before do now. Titles beginning with one of these characters will be moved. A list of these titles can be seen on Phabricator. The titles will be renamed by the user Maintenance script. This will start on 13 April 2020. You can rename them before this if you wish and the new title can be different from the one the script would rename it to. [2]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Willa Brown you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CaroleHenson -- CaroleHenson (talk) 05:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
CaroleHenson, thank you! I've seen your comments and I think they're very helpful, I've replied to a couple. I plan to work on this in the next couple of days. Ping Atsme - it's review time! creffett (talk) 14:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Creffett,
Thank you for the welcome message. I have been following the writings of Dr. Musmar. The Sur Name Musmar is a common name from my home country. I have no connection to Dr. Musmar and found that his views are very forward thinking. I was taken back by the mention that this may be a conflict of interest. The only thing that I was correcting was to show the paragraphs. It is possible that my contribution can be processed? Is there something that I should do on the posting? This is my first attempt to make contributions on the site.Thank you for your help. (Smusmar01 (talk) 02:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)) smusmar01
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [3]
There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [7][8][9]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).
Future changes
Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [10]
The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.
COVID19 Dashboard is a Wikidata-powered one-stop information/visualization service for COVID19-related topics such as COVID19's outbreak map, deaths, symptoms, taxonomy, and publications.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
A database breakage, also affecting connected sister projects such as Wikipedia, on April 6, 11pm UTC. A fix has been deployed and no data has been lost. However, issues related to sitelinks and bots creating duplicates can still occur.
This is Gunnar Hissam, owner / partner of Om Records. I updated our page accordingly and you removed it all. Can you please put it back up? That was a lot of work to fix and you just deleted it? thanks. - Gunnar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunnarhissam (talk • contribs)
Gunnarhissam, a couple points to clarify. First, even if a page is about you or something related to you, you don't own the page - it's not "your page." Second, if you are the owner of Om Records, you should not be editing the article directly, as you have a conflict of interest. I will leave the standard conflict of interest notification on your talk page to make sure that you get all of the resources you need, but in short, as someone with a conflict of interest you are expected to propose changes on the article's talk page (for other editors to review) rather than editing the page directly. creffett (talk) 20:13, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
@Creffet
You could have at least told me what I needed to do before deleting everything I wrote. It was all accurate and hyperlinked correctly to the Om site, there was no reason to delete any of it. I would have cut and pasted my edit into the talk field so it could've been easily updated.
The page for Om was out of date and we are celebrating 25 years this year so it needs to be updated. Who are the other editors? I updated the bio, the logo, the artists, the discography page and you deleted it all.
Gunnarhissam everything you wrote is still in the page history and can be referenced as needed (click here to see the old version). The point is that Wikipedia is not interested in what a company has to say about itself, we are interested in significant coverage in reliable, independent sources (independent news sources, generally). The company website is not a reliable source, and other than the absolute basic facts of the company, a Wikipedia article should not be sourced to that company - if the company website is the only source for something, then that thing probably isn't sufficiently notable to be included in the article. As for who "other editors" are, when you post an edit request message to the talk page, that page is added to a list and various editors regularly patrol that list and respond to the edit request. I can't tell you who in particular will respond to it, but I suggest making sure that your edit requests are sourced to those reliable sources that I mentioned above and are neutral and factual.
Also, when editing a talk page, please post below the previous message and remember to sign your messages with four tildes, like so: ~~~~ creffett (talk) 22:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations!
Collaboration Power
You did it! You took the lead and helped promote Willa Brown to GA!
It evolved into an interesting and informative biography. She was an amazing
woman with several historic firsts. As chance would have it, this happens
to be your first GA, hopefully with many more to come. It was indeed a pleasure
to collaborate with you, Creffett! I recommend that you nominate Willa Brown
for DYK before eligibility expires! AtsmeTalk📧14:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
AngelFanatee11, I really don't know what you're trying to say, but an independent Wikipedia article needs significant coverage in independent, reliable sources - trivial mention of her in news articles doesn't meet that, nor do blog posts. I would suggest creating a draft article and submitting it for review if you really think that she is notable enough for an article (and not changing the existing redirect). creffett (talk) 15:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Just as a note, when you close a discussion you don't necessarily need to use the full formatting of {{atop}}. For example, if it's a one sentence close you could just use {{atop|Backlog has been resolved. ~~~~}}. I know it's totally up to user preference to how they use their templates, but I thought I'd save you a bit of typing (and unnecessary params/space/etc). Primefac (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Hey, if you've got a tool, that's great. I was thinking you were actually typing that all out, or copy/pasting from the template doc! Primefac (talk) 16:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
I put up my first page, but it was marked for deletion on account of lack of references. I just added multiple references from verifiable sources, but I just got a message that the page has now been marked for speedy deletion. I thought the references were the only missing item. Please help what to do to keep the page intact.
Basit.r.sheikh, I'm going to be frank here: we don't want autobiographies. You are writing about yourself, and we consider it basically impossible to write about yourself neutrally. In this case, that's pretty clear - the tone of the article was clearly promotional and was basically a resume. If you really think you are sufficiently notable to merit a Wikipedia page (and please, actually read that link - notability has a particular meaning here: significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, which the current article does not meet), then you should submit a draft through the articles for creation process, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. creffett (talk) 19:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Reguarding Lobdell
I would like to apologise if it seems that what I've done has offended you in any way. The reason I deleted the mention of the 2019 article is because of the lack of verification regarding it. There has been no official word or confirmation from either Scott Lobdell or from DC Comics regarding the accusations from 2016, or about the supposed "Sensitivity Training" mentioned. Also, from what I can see, there has been no official reporting about these accusations outside of bleeding cool. As a result, I simply feel as if these claims should not be treated as if they are fact without proper conformation by multiple outlets first, or an official statement by DC or WB or even Lobdell himself first. Appologies for any confusion.
User:Georgemiser (talk) 20:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Georgemiser, that's a reasonable point. Since we do have a source for the statements, and I'm not familiar with the reliability of bleedingcool, I would recommend that you open a discussion on the article's talk page (or perhaps at the WikiProject Comics discussion page) about removing it. Also, in the future, please make sure to use edit summaries, especially when removing sourced content from a page. creffett (talk) 21:20, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Dr Richard Vann
Dear Creffet,
Dick died I think yesterday. I was told yesterday, ie 17 April 2020 he died. I was also sent his up to date CV with all his military information positions on it. I am in the middle of writing up a tribute to him. And once this has been published, I will put a link to in. Please reinstate his military information.
I have pasted in his CV so that you can see it. It makes more sense if you view it in edit mode.
(removed CV)
- Rosemary E Lunn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.105.24 (talk • contribs)
92.28.105.24 understood, but please only add content to Wikipedia, especially regarding living or recently dead people, with a reliable source to support it - if the resume you sent me is available on a faculty page, for instance, you can link to that. Regarding his death, an obituary would be an acceptable source, but please refrain from drawing conclusions (such as the link between his death and Agent Orange) unless they are also supported by a reliable source. creffett (talk) 22:46, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Hi Maizbhandariya, my name is HickoryOughtShirt?4 and I'm one of English Wikipedia's many admins. Per Wikipedia:Administrators, "administrators are expected to have the trust and confidence of the community, so requests from users who do not have considerable experience are not usually approved." Please honestly consider whether you feel you have enough knowledge of policy and a grasp on the nuances of Wikipedia before applying. Seeing as you are a relatively new user who has also recently been blocked, I suggest waiting a year or so with no blocks before requesting adminship. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:44, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello Creffet, hopefully this is in the correct location. Please return the link mentioned below. It refers to a comprehensive list of internal controls that I have been compiling for the past 5 years. The site it references is non-commercial and holds my own professional, interests one of which is internal control. As an aside, I created this list because of the frustration of trying to find such a resource. I periodically update the list with additional controls (or risk information, another interest). I am happy to place the list in the creative commons as I believe it contributes to general human knowledge in this particular (albeit narrow) area.
I realize that you fight the never ending battle of spam. In this case, the intentions are noble.
A call to action directed at the audience of the Weekly Debrief to edit Wikidata YouTube
Propose new identifiers on Wikidata (in Italian) YouTube
The Map of Libraries on Wikidata (in Spanish) YouTube
Tool of the week
Ordia generates statistics from Wikidata lexeme information, and through the "Text to Lexemes" feature allows linking a document to the associated lexemes, and highlighting missing lexemes that can be added.
Prototyping week: the Wikidata team at Wikimedia Germany spent one week working on some quick experiements. The projects developed during this week are not necessarily going to be added to the maintained codebase. Among those projects:
try to use GraphQL for the API providing access to Wikibase/Wikidata data
allow to programmatically access different configuration variables of a Wikibase instance to make it easier for tools to built on top of it
investigate ranking for Items to order them by their relevance in a query result
com up with a workflows for editing statements linking to other Items in the Wikidata Bridge
identify how to improve Wikidata's accessibility
create design system components to continue improving consistency
I am learning about copyrights of image, the image Lewis1.jpg which was flagged for copyvio. I have acknowledged the error and have quickly written a mail to custserv@courant.com explaining the issue, you may delete the picture please, or how do I delete it myself @Creffett.
I have furthermore contacted another source seeking for copyrights permission, and until I have them, i won't be uploading any further on WikiCommons. Thank you!
By the way, is that the proper way to go about it?
If granted, can I then upload and how?
TheEpistle (talk) 16:42, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
TheEpistle, it will be deleted shortly now that I have tagged it. In the future, here's what you need to know:
Never mark something as "own work" unless it is, in fact, your own work. Derivative works (such as cropping a photo, scanning a physical photograph, or grabbing a still from a video) are not your work.
Assume anything you find on the internet, unless marked otherwise, is subject to copyright. Note that Wikimedia Commons only allows freely licensed images, and the requirement for free licensing basically means that the copyright owner has to give the right for anyone to do anything with the image, and the only restriction the owner can put on it is "re-share under this same license" and "give us credit." Most copyright holders won't be willing to give that permission. It is not possible for them to give permission but only allow Wikipedia to use it.
Wikipedia does allow limited use of fair use images (not Wikimedia Commons - do not upload fair use images there). Any fair use is subject to strict rules, and you will be required to fill in a justification form for anything you claim as fair use.
If in doubt, ask before uploading. There is a noticeboard, Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions, where you can ask questions about how to handle a specific image.
Thank you so much creffett, i really appreciate your time and explanations
I read a couple articles on copyright copyvio] but I need clarity, how exactly do people get to use pictures on wikipedia? Do I right a copyright owner for permission? and if he grants me permission, how do i upload image?
If i contact a person or organization i intend to edit, for instance 9ice or Sarkodie , if they give me a picture to use, do I upload as "my work" or how exactly do I upload? Many thanks! TheEpistle (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
If you find an image online and you think that the copyright holder would be willing to allow the photograph to be uploaded under a free license, then you can look at the directions at Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission. Either they can upload the photo as "own work" or you can upload it and properly credit the author. Please note that you need to be careful when dealing with publicity photos - oftentimes, the copyright is held by the photographer, not the subject, so the subject can't legally give you permission (even if they say they do). You will need the copyright holder to send an email to our volunteer response team to verify that they did indeed give permission.
If you don't think that you can get permission, you can take your own! Perhaps you or a friend have seen one of those artists in concert and took a good picture while you were there. You can upload that picture as "own work" (or if a friend took it, you can get their permission and properly credit them), and that's a perfectly acceptable alternative.
You can also look at Flickr - there are a lot of photographs there which have a Wikipedia-compatible license; see Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr. Someone may have taken a picture of the artist and uploaded it under a suitable license. I've never uploaded a photo from Flickr myself, but I think the directions on the page I linked are pretty good - if you do end up doing this, I'd be happy to review an image if you're unsure of anything.
Please note that Wikipedia's fair use policy generally does not permit fair use of images of living people (the expectation is that it is almost always possible to find an existing image or take a new image), so if you do find an image online but don't get permission from the copyright holder, you should not upload it as a fair-use image. creffett (talk) 21:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you much creffett. 1. I contacted a couple of actual copyright owners of musicians' page I wished to develop earlier today, explaining to them the 'consequence' of Wikipedia licensed picture, 5 of them to be precise, 2 of them mailed me back with signed letters of approval to use their pictures on Wikipedia unreservedly. Do they still need to mail the volunteer response team or is there anyway i can upload the proof of them giving me copyright? 2. I found some free pictures of some musicians on flickr and traced them to [[11]] where i saw they where free to use, share and license, with acknowledgement, is this advisable? Well here's an example of one of them File:9iceMusician.jpg A review would be appreciated.
TheEpistle, they definitely should contact the volunteer response team to confirm that they gave permission. If you have received permission, then you may go ahead and upload, make sure to credit the photographer and leave a note on the talk page saying that you received permission via email and have asked the copyright holder to send an email to confirm it.
The image you found looks okay to me - CC-BY (attribution required) is an acceptable license. I don't have the permissions needed to verify the license, but someone should come by to manually review it soon enough. Also, that Creative Commons search page looks like a great resource - if you're going to use it, make sure to check the "use for commercial purposes" and "modify or adapt" checkboxes, since both of those are necessary to be compatible with Wikipedia's license. Good job! creffett (talk) 23:10, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
I have proposed the speedy deletion of the draft which you said had multiple POV problems and therefore ask you remove the discussion from the notice board. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paxkahlo (talk • contribs)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.
Recent changes
The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [12]
Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [13]
Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [14]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).
Good afternoon, I hope all is well. I am just curious as to why the entire page was deleted? He has more than enough independent references, writing for the likes of Rakim, Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes and Tupac Shakur. He released several independent projects on major labels. He has several articles printed from well known sources like Forbes. The one issue that I had when I submitted it, was that wikipedia noted that the name was ambiguous. I felt that this was because his stage name is Pudgee Tha Phat Bastard and the moniker for his credits for writing and production are typically under T. Horton or Tracey Horton. I anticipated having to address that but did not expect this to be completed deleted. I have roughly twenty years of background in urban music and would like to submit the best caliber of work to wikipedia; any feedback and suggestions you have would be helpful. Jennaherche (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2020 (UTC) Jenna
Mathglot, that would be Twinkle that did that. I have no idea why it would have targeted the wrong user, but next time I tag an A10 I'll keep an eye on who gets notified. creffett (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Editing food items and querying glaciers: YouTube and Facebook
Interactions between VIAF and Wikidata (in Italian) YouTube
Tool of the week
zotkat's exporter for Zotero (a software to manage bibliographic data) allows you to export bibliographies to the QuickStatements format. It is helpful to easily create bibliographical entries, especially as Zotero can read metadata about works from dozens of other websites, and can thus be used as intermediary.
On 28 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Willa Brown, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Willa Brown's efforts to train African-American pilots in the United States led to the creation of the Tuskegee Airmen? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Willa Brown. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Willa Brown), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello Creffett. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Milk Money (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: obvious COI aside, a review in SLUG Magazine might actually indicate significance. Take it to AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy07:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Recent edits
I feel as if the article about kaylee bryant shouldn't be a redirect. What do i need to do? There's no information anywhere on how to create the info boxes and everything else i see on other articles. Lessers23! (talk) 18:15, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Lessers23!, you'll need a lot more than an infobox. Wikipedia requires significant coverage in independent, reliable sources in order to demonstrate notability. The source used there (something like "ten things you didn't know about kaylee bryant," I think?) failed pretty much all of that. You will need to find good sources - things like respectable magazines or newspapers, for example - to demonstrate notability. If you think those sources exist, I'd encourage you to draft the article first in your sandbox so that you have time to work on it - articles with no or bad sources in the main article space tend to get deleted pretty quickly. creffett (talk) 18:18, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the info😀! The thing is that it's hard to tell which articles are fair game for sources. I'll try to find the sandbox, but do you have any specific source suggestions in the meantime? Lessers23! (talk) 18:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Lessers23!, I don't do much with the acting/entertainment industry, so I suggest you ask at the Teahouse - they're very helpful to new editors who want to write articles. Your sandbox is located at User:Lessers23!/sandbox, and you can use it as a draft space. By the way, since I didn't notice that you're new here - welcome to Wikipedia! I'll leave you a welcome message on your talk page. creffett (talk) 18:35, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
