User talk:GeneralNotability/Archives/2020/May

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Yes when I was making an edit I had not realized i was logged in. Also by my edits you can see it was accidental and I make sure to never intentionally edit same time with my account and with IP. I also make sure if on a talk page, I am represented as one identity as my edits show. For example the talk page which only had my IP edits but forgot I was still logged in and quickly corrected. The edit even shows it was not intentional. Thanks. PortalTwo (talk) 16:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

PortalTwo, yeah, I understand. As I said in the SPI case, I was just giving you the standard warning message so that there's no question you've been told the rules (and hopefully that's enough to close the case). creffett (talk) 16:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Understood. Just didn’t want the initial false accusations still stuck to me on that page is all. I’ll make sure to stay logged in. Thanks! PortalTwo (talk) 16:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).

Administrator changes

Gnangarra • Kaisershatner • Malcolmxl5

CheckUser changes

Callanecc

Oversight changes

HJ Mitchell

Guideline and policy news

• Discretionary sanctions have been authorized for all pages and edits related to COVID-19, to be logged at WP:GS/COVID19.
• Following a recent discussion on Meta-Wiki, the edit filter maintainer global group has been created.
• A request for comment has been proposed to create a new main page editor usergroup.
• A request for comment has been proposed to make the bureaucrat activity requirements more strict.

Technical news

• The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. You can review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.
• Enterprisey created a script that will show a link to the proper Special:Undelete page when viewing a since-deleted revision, see User:Enterprisey/link-deleted-revs.

Miscellaneous

• A request for comment closed with consensus to create a Village Pump-style page for communication with the Wikimedia Foundation.

Hey Creffett, just wondering if you think that {{uw-usertalk}} would be a good addition to Twinkle in the single-issue notices category? If so, how does one propose such an addition? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 08:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Drm310, fine with me - I personally have it in my "custom warnings" section already. I think you just post to WT:Twinkle to suggest it. creffett (talk) 12:46, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Shows you how much I look under the hood... I didn't even know that you could have custom warnings! Although when I tried adding it in my Twinkle preferences, it didn't save. I wonder why? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Drm310, actually I might know this one - you still have to scroll down and hit "save." Same thing bit me before, I added it to the custom list but forgot to save. creffett (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Right you are, it worked. Thanks!! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: A meta item namespace (Mxxx) for structured data about Wikidata

• Events
  • Competition for the International Museum Day is about improving data about museums in Austria, France, Germany, Italy and Switzerland on Wikidata, from 3 May 2020 to 18 May 2020, more information on Museum Day 2020/Wikidata Competition
  • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Alex Jung on Wikidata and Wikipedia Infoboxes, 05 May. Agenda
  • Upcoming: live SPARQL queries in French by Vigneron, Tuesday May 5 at 20:00 CEST (UTC+2)

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing: YouTube
  • Art+Feminism Office Hours: Introduction to Editing Wikidata: YouTube
  • Webinar on why and how to contribute to Wikipedia and Wikidata? (in French): YouTube

• Tool of the week
  • ProWD explores completeness for entities and classes.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • MachtSinn, a tool that allows you to easily add Senses to Lexemes, has lately been improved significantly
  • 33,000 values of British Museum person or institution ID (d:Property:P1711) now have a useful target again. After their being mostly inoperative for several years, the new British Museum website now has information pages matching these values, with links to related objects. (Example). To work around bug T112081, a script by Andrew Gray is going through the items making null edits to update the relevant URLs.
  • Outdated copy of wb_terms has been dropped on April 29th

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    • External identifiers: DPE school code, identifiant Prix de Lausanne, CDAPNC author ID, identificativo Giunta regionale della Sicilia, Goodreads work ID, Wikilengua, BeWeb cultural institution ID, Anagrafe Istituti Culturali Ecclesiastici ID, Group Properties wiki ID, House Divided ID, Southwest Harbor Public Library item, Gitabitan.net ID, The Conversation author ID
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  • French municipalities which have the property "archived by" (P485) for the departmental archives of Bouches-du-Rhône (Source)
    • Municipalities with less than 5,000 inhabitants in the Basque Country (Source)
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    • Average stardate of Star Trek episodes (Source)
    • Municipalities in mainland France with more than 50,000 inhabitants (Source)
    • Graph showing direct ancestral lines linking Boris Johnson and George I, and Jesus and Abraham (Source)
    • Photos by Carlton Watkins with their collection (Source)
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    • Map of artists with place of their birth on Wikidata (Source)
    • Location and image of the cathedrals of Paris (Source)
    • Jewish art collectors and dealers who were murdered in Nazi concentration camps (Source)
  • Newest database reports: Notable descedents of Mayflower passengers

• Development
  • Add monolingual language codes rm-rumgr, rm-surmiran, rm-sursilv, rm-sutsilv, rm-vallader, rm-puter (phab:T222426)
  • More work on the test system for federated properties
  • More work on displaying statements with federated properties (phab:T246606)
  • Bridge: more work on generic error screens (phab:T241126)
  • Bridge: warn the user that they are about to edit anonymously (phab:T246676)
  • Work on a Wikidata distributed game for automated finding of references
  • Automated finding references: build a scraper, simple value matching, item analyzer
  • Have the focus on field when adding new element on Sense (phab:T203461)
  • Add more properties to the PageImages list (phab:T249811)
  • Use strict types everywhere in Wikibase (phab:T251382)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 15:33, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

16:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not sure why it says that, I'm new to wikipedia and I was just trying to create a page, about it, could you guide me through the process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elissalilly (talk • contribs)

Elissalilly, I'm sorry, but I find it very difficult to believe that you are not connected in some way to the article subject, and I find it hard to believe that you don't know why your userpage has that conflict of interest declaration when you're the one who created the page. creffett (talk) 14:13, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm literally 16 years old and I just joined wikipedia a couple days ago, I don't understand what I did. I just looked up what Iwas writing a page on and it said, "is this the topic you wanna write about" and I clicked "yes". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elissalilly (talk • contribs) 15:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Elissalilly, again, I find that questionable, but let's move on to a different question. What, if any, is your connection to Trinity Sports Representation and Marketing? Given that the article was very promotionally worded, I find it hard to believe that you're not connected to the company in some way. (Also, please leave out personal details if applicable - if you're a minor, you should be very careful with what you're sharing publicly. Just a simple yes/no is sufficient)creffett (talk) 16:02, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

hello, I would like to request that you support reinstating question 14. This is a fantastic opportunity to gauge the real world decision making of candidate CaptainEel with regards to an actual problematic article. This is one of the most interesting controversies in the modern martial arts community, and I think it is worth looking at. The article itself is mostly composed of dead reference links to Mr. Rao's own websites. Many of the claims are provably false, and he is being investigated by several different organizations regarding his false claims (e.g. medical degree from Yale, law degree, BJJ blackbelt from a nonexistent school, suspicious JKD rank that only existed after the person who allegedly gave it to him was already dead, etc). The notability of the subject is also questionable given that from all regards the only one of his claims that appears to be true is that he gained the honorary rank of Major in the Indian Army Reserves. However, there are hundreds if not thousands of actual Majors in the Indian land army - such does not make one a notable figure by itself. Additionally, it appears that Mr. Deepak Rao has been having interested parties edit and create his page for him for advertising purposes. This is unethical and to provide unverified claims as if they were truth on Wikipedia is against the rules for articles on living persons.

Looking forward to your reply. Very respectfully,

BasicsOnly (talk) 01:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

BasicsOnly, if you are concerned that information in an article was fabricated, then there are appropriate places to bring that up. An RfA is not one of them. Further, as I alluded to in my request to have your question struck, you appear to be bringing an off-wiki dispute onto Wikipedia - your userpage says [I am] a member of the martial arts watchdog organization Bullshido.net, you specifically mentioned Bullshido's investigation in your question, and the majority of your edits have been related to 'debunking' Deepak Rao. Regardless of whether or not you are correct about Rao's accomplishments being fabricated, we don't like it when people bring off-wiki disputes on-wiki, and bringing those disputes into RfA is outright disruptive. I stand by my request to have the question struck. creffett (talk) 02:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

creffett I understand and respect your viewpoint regarding this matter. I would contest, however, that this is not an off-wiki dispute seeing as the issue is regarding the veracity of Mr. Rao's claims - many of which are presented on his Wikipedia article. Given that Wikipedia is committed to presenting factual information, the veracity of the aforementioned claims is very much the business of the wiki. I have no personal connection to Mr. Rao aside from my objection to his false claim of rank in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu - an issue which BJJ practitioners take very seriously as it threatens the integrity of the art and puts students at personal danger.

Very respectfully, BasicsOnly (talk) 02:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

BasicsOnly, if your organization is investigating the subject of an article, then it certainly is a dispute that began off-wiki. I see that you have posted your concerns to the relevant talk pages; that is the correct thing to do. If you do not get a response there after a few days, you can raise your concerns at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial arts as well. For what it's worth, I agree that that article is suspicious, but "righting great wrongs" (joining Wikipedia to "set the record straight") is frowned upon here. creffett (talk) 02:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

creffett that's a fair point. I'm just wondering I suppose how the article even made it onto the site with no reliable sources? Under the "righting great wrongs" article, it says that Wikipedia only presents verified information by reliable sources, however nearly every source on Deepak Rao's page is one of his own websites. How did it even clear review?

V/R BasicsOnly (talk) 02:33, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles don't need to clear review; anyone can post an article. If you don't believe that the article belongs on Wikipedia, then please read WP:AFD carefully and file a request there according to the instructions. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Creffett. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Capital com, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: the awards alone is enough of a credible claim of importance for A7, plus a number of sources. Needs to go to AfD if required. . Thank you. GedUK  10:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Ged UK, understood, thanks for letting me know that you declined. creffett (talk) 11:50, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

The article Willa Brown you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Willa Brown for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CaroleHenson -- CaroleHenson (talk) 02:01, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

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