User talk:JDDJS/Archive 6

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You have been blocked temporarily from editing for edit-warring. I am aware that Sphynxdragon has been disruptive and obstructive, but that doesn't justify edit-warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  JBW (talk) 16:50, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

JDDJS (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I find it completely ridiculous to call what I did edit warring, when all I did was restore the status quo on articles. I was never the only editor to revert Sphynxdragon. Each of his edits were undone by multiple editors, before and after me. Sphynxdragon was the only one being reverted. I truly cannot understand how you came to the conclusion that I needed to be blocked when again, multiple editors were reverting him. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:59, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You need to commit to not edit warring. Restoring the status quo is still edit warring. Sphynxdragon has received a longer block than you. I am declining this request. PhilKnight (talk) 17:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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@PhilKnight So what should I have done? Let the unstable version of the articles stand? You are completely ignoring the fact that multiple editors reverted Sphynxdragon before and after me. It wasn't just a back and forth war between the two of us. It was Sphynxdragon acting against the consensus of several editors. Another involved editor has agreed the block against me makes no sense. [1] JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:36, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@User:JBW, also, I do want to point out that you did not block either of my alternative accounts that I disclosed on my user page. User:Usertest1253 (which I haven't used in years and am not even sure that I know the password for) and User:I am JDDJS (which I do use on occasion) are both still unblocked. I have no intention of evading my block, despite how unjust and wrong I feel it is, but I thought that you might want to know about them. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:19, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I read the guidelines, and they do not at all make it clear if I'm allowed to make a second request for unblock. I know that I've seen editors do so in the past, but also know that doesn't mean that it's allowed. So I apologize if this second request is against policy, however I truly do not feel that PhilKnight fully evaluated the situation before declining my first request. He did not all address my main argument as to why the block is unfair, which is the fact that multiple editors were undoing Sphynxdragon's edits. Multiple editors reverted his edits before and after me. Not only was I restoring the status quo, but there was a clear consensus that they were the preferred version of the pages as again, multiple editors other than me resorted those versions and Sphynxdragon was the only editor against them. Another editor even pointed out that my block didn't really make sense here. If this was just between the two of us, I would have stopped reverting him long ago. But it was extremely that it was not just between the two of us. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You seem to be trying to justify your edit warring, not tell us what was wrong with it. That others reverted as well does not mean that edit warring was acceptable. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 19:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

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First, you are perfectly free to make a second unblock request. As for what you have said in your unblock requests, you are essentially saying that you think your repeatedly reverting doesn't count as edit-warring because you are convinced your edits were right. Wikipedia's policy on edit warring is, basically, "don't edit war", not "don't edit war unless you are convinced that you are right". Indeed, it would be completely meaningless to have an edit warring policy which exempted any editor who was convinced that he or she was right, as in most edit wars everybody involved thinks they are right. JBW (talk) 18:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@JBW That's not even close to what I'm saying, and I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. I'm not saying it's not edit warring because I was in the right. Believe me, I would have been permanently blocked by now if I felt being right was an excuse for edit warring. I don't feel that it's edit warring because multiple editors also reverting Sphynxdragon before and after me. El Millo even pointed out that I was just restoring the status quo and undoing disruptive edits and multiple editors agreed with me and that my block didn't really make sense. [2] Both you and PhilKnight have completely ignored that fact, which is quite infuriating. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:37, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@331dot, @JBW and @PhilKnight so if what I did was wrong, what should I have done? We tried communicating policy to Sphynxdragon, but they made it clear that they neither understood not cared about policy. They were reported for edit warring, but that report went unanswered for nearly 2 days, and then, it was only after an ANI report for personal attacks was filled. There were other editors reverting them, but they weren't around at the time, and even if they were, they would have eventually done more than 3 reverts to stop Sphynxdragon. So should we had just let them had their way, despite the fact that consensus was extremely clearly against them? Sphynxdragon should have been blocked for edit warring before I even had the chance to violate 3RR, so I'm effectively being punished for the admins taking too long to actually take action. This is completely ridiculous. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Admins are volunteers just as you are, and do what they can when they can. If you have ideas on how to increase the number of administrators, please offer them. Blocks are not a punishment, but a means to end disruption. You've been told how you can be unblocked. 331dot (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@331dot if I say I was wrong for edit warring, I would be lying as that is no at all how I feel. If you at least provided me with another option to take when I'm in a situation like this, I might be able to honestly say I'll do that instead, but you nor anyone else have actually given any alternative options. And the idea that my block is to end disruption and not a punishment just makes it even more ridiculous. Even if my reverts of Sphynxdragon's edits were "disruptive" (which they were not, but rather a response to Sphynxdragon's edits that everyone else involved agreed were disruptive), as Sphynxdragon is now blocked, the disruption is gone regardless of whether or not I stay blocked. I also do not have significant history of edit warring (I might have technically violated 3RR once or twice in the past, but have always stopped before it got out of hand). So the idea that this block exists to stop disruption rather than to punish me makes no sense. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:26, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

If you feel that you acted properly, then you will have to wait out the block and I will tell you that future edit warring will lead to longer blocks. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how correct it was, as everyone in an edit war thinks they are correct(as you were told). 331dot (talk) 20:35, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@331dot again, I ask what should I have done instead? If my actions were wrong, then surely there was a correct cause of action? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

You report it and then be patient until a volunteer takes action. If necessary, you can monitor the various admin logs to see who is active. In the event of a less urgent intractable dispute, channels of dispute resolution are available. 331dot (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@331dot it took nearly 2 days for any admin to take action. I can be patient, but expecting me to wait that long is ridiculous. I'm more than willing to use dispute resolution, but in this case, they made it clear from the start that they couldn't care less about policy, so it would have been a waste of time. It seems pretty clear that you don't actually have a real answer on a better course of action to stop Sphynxdragon's disruptive edits. So I guess you can do whatever you want when the admins aren't around. So if I promise to never try to undo disruptive edits again and instead let them stay up until the admins get involved, would I get unblocked? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:59, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Until editors and admins are paid to make themselves available, that's just the way it is. As I said, if you have ideas on how to improve participation, please offer them. If a page is subject to disruptive edits, you can also request page protection. Edit warring to fight edit warring is not acceptable. Full stop. If you can't wait another 16 hours for the block to expire, as you were told above, a committment to not edit war and to pursue proper avenues of addressing this sorts of thing should make for a successful unblock request. 331dot (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

@User:JBW Out of curiosity, why is my IP blocked but not the alternate accounts that I told you about? If I can be trusted to not try and evade my block, then surely there's no need to block my IP. But if I can't be trusted, surely my other accounts should be blocked as well. Doesn't really matter because I meant it when I said that I won't try to evade this block. But I was curious. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

I haven't blocked your other accounts because I have no reason to do so. The IP block you are referring to is no doubt an autoblock, which by default is imposed automatically by the software when an account is blocked. I could override it, but generally the standard setting is kept unless there's a specific reason to change it, and I don't know of one in this case. JBW (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey, can you help revert the latest edit on the Stranger Things Season 4 wiki page that removed 3 confirmed cast members. Thanks. MonkeyBusiness2468 (talk) 08:22, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Hi JDDJS, in this edit to the Freddie Freeman article, you stated, "We use nationality, not citizenship". Is this from a guideline or consensus? It's becoming an issue again, presumably because he's now playing in a new market with millions of people. I'd like to get a clear consensus one way or another on the article's talk page, but I have no interest in reinventing the wheel either. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 05:06, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

MOS:ETHNICITY is the policy. It has consistently been interpreted as meaning that we use nationality and not just all citizenship. Examples include Dwayne Johnson (American opposed to Canadian American), Kirsten Dunst (American opposed to German American), Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson (American opposed to Greek American), Julianne Moore (American opposed to British American), and Emily Blunt (British opposed to British American), just to name a few of the hundreds of examples. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 06:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello JDDJS,

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FYI, I've opened an AN/I report regarding DudleyPuppyLikes2ChewHisButt/DudleyPuppyWasAPlainOldMutt. Obviously, they are socking, but since their behavior is WP:NOTHERE, I'll wait for the outcome of the AN/I to bother opening a sock investigation. I'd recommend just letting them continue for now rather than get dragged into an edit war, even though their edits are clearly nonsense at this point, and let it get handled through AN/I. If you'd like to add any info to the AN/I discussion, it is here: [3] ButlerBlog (talk) 00:14, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Never mind... they're blocked now. ButlerBlog (talk) 00:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I personally chose that image you removed as I couldn't think of anything else better for that page and feel that if I tried to add an image of a copyrighted character, it would be flagged and taken down. But, I'm not going to say that is a great image for the page, only that it is better than what is there before. --Historyday01 (talk) 23:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

@Historyday01 I don't really see why this article particularly needs an image. Not every article needs an image. However, a cosplay of a character who originated in animation and is well noted for being gay could be argued. However, it's really hard to argue that the image was helpful. We don't even know if the cosplayer was going for Bart Allen or Wally West or if he was going for Young Justice or the comics where Bart is usually portrayed as straight. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 23:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I can agree that not every article needs an image, sure, but I think this article, specifically could benefit from an image. If I ever have time to find another image, I'll add it, but for now, I'll just leave it as is. Historyday01 (talk) 02:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

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Backlog status

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Hello JDDJS and thank you for your recent report involving this article. The page has since been protected as it has been a prolonged target of sustained vandalism and otherwise disruptive editing from various IP addresses. If you are familiar with the subject, would you please rollback some of the non-encyclopedic language which has crept into the article? It currently reflects something one might find on a fanpage wiki, but is not suitable for a Wikipedia article. Example: [4] Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 22:38, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@Yamaguchi先生 Unfortunately, I am not at all familiar with the show. I only came across it because the vandals were editing articles about Phineas and Ferb (a show I am familiar with) to include information about a fake crossover with it. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 02:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

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See the discussion on article talk. The Comanche language is co-primary, both in the English version, and in the Comanche language version of the film. It's French that is the secondary language. - CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 20:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

The Comanche version of the film is a dub. We never include dubs in the language for infobox. If Comanche language was equally a primary language with English, they will never have even made a Comanche language dub. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

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I saw this edit then I saw this one. Congrats for being so consistent. CodemWiki (talk) 15:24, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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I was looking at this tree and the placement is bizarre. One of its sub-categories is Tarzan Characters. The category includes both Tarzan and Jane Porter, who are not animals, and stated out as characters in a book, then were portrayed in many live action films, including at least one since the Disney film. To categorize a general article on Tarzan under "animated" anything, just because he has been portrayed in an animated film is excessive. However no one would call him an "animated animal." There are even characters under Tarzan characters who did not appear at all in the Disney film and so we not animated at all ever, period.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, you complained about my edit summaries on my talk page. Most of my edit summaries that are short usually are the ones where I only add hyperlinks or references. There are times when I also add other text but as you know the edit summary has a character limit, so I can't write novels describing all my edits. Plus, sometimes I don't have the time or the energy to write a long edit summary. Wikipedia says to Assume good faith from editors.

Hope now you understood more my choices. Good day. Ninhursag3 (talk) 06:32, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ninhursag3 Here you just said added reference when you actually added a sentence to the article. Here you said added link when you actually added ethnicity to the lead (which is against policy). Here's another example. And here. I made it clear that I wasn't accusing of acting in malice. I'm simply warning you how it might come off to some people. It's just some advice that I'm giving you. It's entirely up to you on what to do with it. I've gotten plenty of advice in my years here. Sometimes I listen and sometimes I don't. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:00, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for your input. Ninhursag3 (talk) 19:19, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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Please rollback your rollback. As I explained in my note when I restored the 2023 Superman casting info to Corenswet’s lead earlier today, it isn’t the future project (film) that’s notable, it’s the fact that he got cast as Superman, which already happened and has already had a big effect on his career. Most castings aren’t notable in themselves, but being cast as Superman for a feature film is because of the place this iconic character already holds in the public kind. Corenswet is in fact widely and best known now for this casting, as you can verify by googling. Every news article that mentions Corenswet identifies him by it (“the next Superman”). Charlie939 (talk) 00:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

We already had this discussion. It goes against WP:CRYSTAL and WP:RECENT. Feel free to discuss it further on the article's talk page. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Please do not edit war. The future section does not count as a "major section" and that consensus is established across all MCU articles. If you want to change that you need to start a discussion and gain new consensus, not just keep reverting to enforce your own personal preference. - adamstom97 (talk) 12:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hello JDDJS! At David Xanatos you have claimed that there's absolutely no reason to stall the merge. So my question is, if there is no reason to stall, why you did not yet perform the merge? Instead, you have performed a WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT, which is decidedly a different outcome than merging. But you yourself have stated that the merge that was already agreed to. Wikipedia's description How to merge clearly states: Copy all or some of the content from the source page(s) and paste the content in an appropriate location at the destination page. Don't just redirect the source page without copying any content if any good content from the source page exists. Redirecting before merging means that content, of which there is consensus that it should stay, is removed from the view of all readers, together with the tag which invites editors do perform the actual merge. Daranios (talk) 18:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@JDDJS: As I've not yet heard back from you, please let me know in case you object to me restoring the article until such time as someone decides to perform an actual merge. I would like to avoid the impression of editwar, but would otherwise restore based on my arguments above. In case you object, please also let me know how you would like to go on from here. I guess involving a third party would be good? Daranios (talk) 09:54, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

What info needs to even be merged into the other article? The article had less than 10 references and was mostly in universe information. Instead of wasting your time trying to keep an article that a merge had already been agreed to, don't you think that it would be more productive just working on merging the info you want to preserve? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 15:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Seeing that lesser characters have more info there, I think both the in-universe stuff should be expanded, and the Xanatos Gambit added. I can't say in detail, because properly merging is some work which I prefer to spend elsewhere, while a simple redirection (or the undoing of which in accordance also with WP:BRD, which I thought I was doing here originally) is very fast. You keep on mentioning a merge, but are acting contrary to it. I think such an approach in opposition to the consensus in general hurts the project, and I think that's why the policies are written like that. I would like to have clarified if I am reading this wrong. I do not want to keep the article contrary to consensus, but don't want a WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT either. Daranios (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I've now added everything I felt that was worthwhile from the article to the target. So the merge is now completed. You can add more if you want to, but the agreed upon merge has now been completed rendering this conversation moot. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! So there was an overlap now between your work an my last reply. I still see more which should be added, but that's in the eye of the beholder, and so in the end my problem. Daranios (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I noticed you readded a section at the top of Saturday Night Live linking people to the page for the current season. I previously removed it; I'm not sure who initially added it but I assume that was you too. I was just wondering what the justification is for this, as there was nothing in your edit summary restoring it. This is not standard for currently airing TV series from what I can see, as this section is normally only used for disambiguation clarification, e.g. someone following "SNL" from the search bar. Nobody looking for the season 50 article would type in "SNL", they would type in "SNL season 50". StewdioMACK (talk) 13:08, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

It's been on there for years. There are plenty of other examples of it being used, see Dancing with the Stars (American TV series) and The Masked Singer (American TV series), just off the top of my head. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:00, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

What is the reason for it? Its inclusion seems extraneous to me for the reasons I explained. Nobody is getting the SNL page mixed up with the SNL season 50 page. StewdioMACK (talk) 14:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

It's not that people getting confused. But there's a lot of information that people might expect to find on the page, but would only be on the season page, like the current cast. The average person also likely doesn't know what season these shows are currently in, this makes it much easier and more direct to navigate them to the latest season page. If you're still against it, I recommend bringing it up on WP:TV. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 16:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I still think it’s unnecessary, but I won’t push the issue further. Also regarding the SNL page and your reversion of the most recent IP edit; episodes now air live on Peacock also right? Wouldn’t that make Peacock also a first-run network and worthy of being in the infobox? StewdioMACK (talk) 05:09, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

You really should be having this discussion on the talk page, but no, in my opinion, a show that has been airing on the same network for 50 years also being available on a streaming service for the last year or two isn't infobox worthy. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 19:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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Moved to Talk:Wicked (2024 film)

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Regarding your deletion of the category Category:Film productions suspended due to the COVID-19 pandemic from Wicked (2024 film); this category is correctly applied as per its lead it categorizes all films which had their production suspended or delayed. Clearly, from #Pre-production section, this production has obviously been delayed. Happily888 (talk) 00:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Pre-production is not production. They were not even cast yet. That category is for films that either started or were ready to start filming. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Just saw that you reverted this again, please don't WP:EW. I understand that production refers specifically to filming, however the category includes films which were both either having filming suspended or delayed, the latter of which is the case for Wicked. I'm linking to the pre-production section, not because I’m referring to pre-production, it is however because information about original production dates prior to delay is in that section and the section therefore contains information about production. The film was originally supposed to enter production in late 2020 as it was originally set to be released in November 2021, however filming was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. This is the appropriate category for this case, the other category Category:Films postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic refers to the films release dates being changed but not to a delay in production dates. Happily888 (talk) 00:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to start a discussion on the talk page about this. I'll respect any consensus established. But you're not going to convince me that it's an appropriate category. It was nowhere near production at that point. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

 Note: I have moved this discussion to Talk:Wicked (2024 film). Happily888 (talk) 01:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, perhaps you could explain why you're putting up content with no citations (surely a fundamental requirement of all wiki content) and no other support. Thanks. P.s. Wiki is getting hurt here. Sensible normal people are seeing this sort of pejorative content as materially bias (woke), and leaving wiki. The AIs are pretty good wiki alternatives now, with sources and further explanations available, and no inbuilt biases. Asto77 (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Because I'm capable of reading the hiding note there that said not to change as it was established by consensus. Discuss it further on the talk page over there if you want to. But I'm not at all interested in directly communicating with you any further. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:03, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

could you add the full summary and plot to the screamboat page pls? Vucgfg (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I haven't (and won't) see the film, so I can't. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:51, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

ok Vucgfg (talk) 20:52, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

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