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I want to commend you an all of your content creations. Secondly where did you get your name from. Sounds kind of sciency. mauchoeagle _(c) 03:18, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. Not science though, it's from the Aeneid - 'the hide of a dappled lynx', supposedly worn by the virgin huntress sister of Venus - and from there is borrowed for the Inferno for one of the three beasts symbolizing concupiscence...

Quite the long name though. If you ever wanted to shorten it to just Maculosae, I could help you. mauchoeagle _(c) 04:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! It seems that you are interested in Cultural Properties of Japan. A while ago I kicked off this little project and together with User:Urashimataro started to create articles found in Template:Cultural Properties of Japan (still needs some work). I'd be very happy if you decided to help with it. There are lots of open tasks, such as creating articles on some of the more interesting cultural properties, finding/uploading/adding pictures of cultural properties, completing lists of cultural properties, keeping lists and articles up to date (new nominations...). I am currently adding some prose to List of National Treasures of Japan (writings: books) in order to nominate it at WP:FLC and am slowly adding to List of Important Intangible Folk Cultural Properties (help appreciated). bamse (talk) 22:14, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your work is the best thing I've found in Wikipedia - though I hope you will be doing the same for ICPs shortly... I've found it a fantastic resource as I've tried to find my way around and would be very pleased to help where I can, especially on populating the intangibles. Thank you for the invite, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

こんにちは。トカラ列島県立自然公園について調べていたら、あなたのエントリーにたどり着きました。あなたがつけたページのタイトル「Tokara Retto Prefectural Natural Park」は「Tokara Islands Prefectural Nature Park」に変更すべきです。 Naturalという言葉は直訳しすぎで、Natureの方が自然です。 AASF08 (talk) 13:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@AASF08: Hello, the names for the parks come from this (archived) official list: [1], with macrons added (Retto→Rettō) per the Manual of Style, thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 14:02, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I understand, but official translations can be inadequate. I'm often requested by Japanese local governments to redo translations done by inexperienced or non-English-speaking translators, and 自然公園 should be Nature Park, or simply Park. AASF08 (talk) 12:18, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi I really can't see why you want to turn a person into a painting. Please explain, rather than changing the redirect. It sounds like you want to create an extra person, but this is not a reason to change another article. Jane (talk) 20:26, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi Jane, in short I do not want to, just, in the current absence of a page dedicated to Giovanni da Rimini, one approach might be to link to the fullest current treatment of the artist in Wikipedia, even if but a section on a page primarily concerning a diptych, rather than to a page which is indeed about a John from Rimini who was handy with a brush, but per refs provided (Grove/OUP) lived a generation later and is known as Giovanni Baronzio rather than Giovanni da Rimini in order that the twain be not confused. An alternative approach would indeed be to link a person to a page about a person, albeit the "wrong one", because at least he's a person not a painting. Over to you...Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 06:56, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well in that case you should create a stub for that guy and then turn this redirect into a disambig. From what you say there is nothing incorrect abut calling the first guy by that name, so the redirect should remain as is. What you did is not the wikiway. We don't redirect names from one person to another without creating a disambig so that both people can be called the same name, and we don't call paintings people. Let me know if you feel uncomfortable creating the stub - I will need sources to do it for you. Jane (talk) 10:57, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what I was trying to say there are two distinct people: (1) Giovanni da Rimini (2) Giovanni Baronzio. Person (2) has his own page already. Person (1) has a redirect to a mini-bio. No disambiguation is needed. I shall be heading back now to Japanese cultural properties, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:17, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, because the page for Person (2) still says his name is Giovanni da Rimini. so there are two with this name now. Or are you saying that this is incorrect? If there are sources, then it is correct enough for a disambig. Jane (talk) 21:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi!. Thanks for the great work you are doing with the Japanese museums. I noticed this title/designation ("Important Art Object") in Yuki Museum of Art. Are those pre-1950 designations (before the current "Law for the Protection of Cultural Properties")? bamse (talk) 21:43, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bamse, likewise on the folk tangibles. Yes, that's my understanding. Per eg here (end of section e, 2nd column, 3rd page) it looks like the old designations of 重要美術品 effectively continue in force; see also here and, I think, page 54 of the 1950 law here (from the UNESCO database). The dates for Itsuō Art Museum's designations here, where all the 重要美術品 are between 1933 and 1942, would fit, and 重要美術品 seem to be presented as a still current classification; lots of other museums seem to mention these too, eg, in English, Okura Shukokan, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:00, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Apropos your very decent offer on my page, which I hope not to abuse, could you manage to email me Mother's Brother in Wikmunkan Society George C. Homans and David M. Schneider Ethnology Vol. 1, No. 4 (Oct., 1962), pp. 529-532? Best regards Nishidani (talk) 22:18, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You certainly may - I don't think I can attach files via "Email this user", so if you reply to my email, I can reply to you with the attachment, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hallo Maculosae, I started creating Category:Old National Treasures of Japan when I noticed you created this article List of Cultural Properties of Japan struck from the register. In Japanese the former treasures are called 旧国宝. What should be the correct term be for this category? Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 19:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gryffindor, I'm afraid as yet I haven't managed to find the definitive rendering for these old/former National Treasures. (Have studiously avoided addressing the issue thus far in that list of properties struck from the register, which I need and intend to continue.) The main source for that, the bunkacho book, mentions of course 旧国宝 in the Japanese, and also has a summary in English, "List of Registered Important Cultural Properties which were removed from the official file because of the damages caused by fires and other causes", but this section has various issues including factual discrepancies when compared with the Japanese. There's an article by Shimizu in jstor "Japan in American Museums" which mentions "old National Treasures" in the sense of those that were designated under the old system and subsequently regraded and guess Old, or Former, may be as good as anything. May stumble on something at some point in the future, in which case shall let you know, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. Just so that I understand this correctly though, what is the correct official Japanese term for all the items that were lost? They were all classified and named as "National Treasures" under the old system (as opposed to Important Cultural Properties?)? For example some turrets from Nagoya Castle that survived were degraded after the war as Important Cultural Properties, not as National Treasures anymore, correct? I am not too happy about the name of the category that I created either (it's neither official and sounds a bit odd as well, but I took the literal Japanese translation and most common use). I see on the Commons you used the name "Category:Former Cultural Properties of Japan". Are these all (old) National Treasures on your list and in that category, are we talking about one and the same things? What shall we do? Gryffindor (talk) 22:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, yes, I believe we are basically talking about one and the same thing. The list I'm trying to build/replicate is (almost entirely) of these 旧国宝. The Heisei preface(s) to the bunkacho book refer to earlier efforts to compile a 焼失した国指定文化財の記録 and earlier publications relating to 焼失文化財. The reproduced Shōwa 30s & 40s prefaces (one for 建造物 and one for 美術工芸) each give a count of 国宝重要文化財 designated to date while referring also with a count to the further 明治三十年の古社寺保存法施行以後指定され...焼失した旧国宝を含む重要文化財, i.e. '"burnt" Important Cultural Properties (including Old National Treasures) designated since the enactment of the 1897 Ancient Temples and Shrines Preservation Law'. My understanding is that this 旧国宝を含む重要文化財 uses the contemporary post-1950 terminology (ICPs and "old" NTs) to refer to what, at the time of designation/since the 1929 law, were simply NTs. Like the surviving turrets, all (extant) "old" NTs became ICPs with the 1950 law, some subsequently being promoted to NTs within the new two-tier system, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just found this discussion accidentally. Reading the National Treasure article, the term National Treasure first appeared with the 1897 law. In 1929 this law was replaced. Also there wer severall additions/modifications at other times. Do you think that it is necessary to distinguish between those different NTs or would you join all pre-1950 NT in one category? bamse (talk) 22:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, per the National Treasure article, it looks like, per the 1897 law(s) and pre-1929, only art works could be NTs while buildings might be "Specially Protected Buildings" - technically that would mean any buildings designated as such from 1897 and destroyed pre-1929 never had the status of 国宝, 旧 or otherwise, and there were several; that said, if per the above the book deals predominantly with 焼失した旧国宝を含む重要文化財, (in terms of the most appropriate terminology that might be used) for those lost pre-1950, presumably none were ever 重要文化財, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PPS, per the Nihon Kokugo Daijiten, even ?capitalized? 'Cultural Property' may be semi-problematic, the definition and early examples of use of 文化財 being:

(1)文化活動によってつくり出された事物・事象で文化的価値を有するもの。

＊現代語大辞典〔１９３２〕〈藤村作・千葉勉〉「ぶんかざい 文化財 文化によって出来た産物のこと。学問・芸術・道徳・宗教など」

＊地方自治法〔１９４７〕二条・三「建造物・絵画・芸能・史跡・名勝その他の文化財を保護し」

＊鉛筆ぐらし〔１９５１〕〈扇谷正造〉序に代えて「新聞はもはや文化財ではなくして、生活財であろう」

(2)特に、文化財保護法の定める有形文化財、無形文化財、民俗文化財、記念物、伝統的建造物群の総称。

＊文化財保護法〔１９５０〕一条「この法律は、文化財を保存し、且つ、その活用を図り」

(but it fits nicely per the article Cultural Property (Japan) (and per Hermogenes as reprised by Socrates in Cratylus (dialogue), 'the name of each thing is only that which anybody agrees to call it'…)), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can make out, no distinction is being made (though probably a brief clarification would be helpful on the struck properties page in due course) in the bunkacho book between the 1897 and 1929 laws in that they both allowed for the designation of 国宝 works of art while the historic buildings of the 1897 law(s) seemingly became NTs under the 1929 law (I haven't actually gone through the legislation). Also, I have found no reference to monuments under the 1919 Historical Sites, Places of Scenic Beauty, and Natural Monuments Preservation Law ever being struck - certainly not in this book, and not yet elsewhere either. That leaves the 1933 Law Regarding the Preservation of Important Works of Fine Arts. Here I think there is a distinction, in that these 重要美術品 Important Art Objects are a separate category - and both National Treasure (Japan) and Cultural Property (Japan) distinguish between the counts of NTs and of Important Art Objects/Works of Fine Art.

As I believe we have touched on before (couldn't immediately find the diff), per eg Yuki Museum of Art, Nomura Art Museum, Tokiwayama Bunko, Kitamura Museum, Showa Museum of Art, and Itsuō Art Museum, even now the number of Important Art Objects in a collection may be stated alongside the number of Important Cultural Properties (including NTs). Per here, with reference to Important Art Objects, even after the 1950 law, their status/designation continues 'for the time being' 文化財保護法の施行後も、「当分の間」その認定効力を保つとされています. The bunkacho book, predominantly about NTs/ICPs old and new also has a mini-appendix of (three) Important Art Objects 重要美術品等認定物件, a 仏堂 (seemingly a peculiar 'art object', but in keeping with the definition per the National Treasure and Cultural Property pages) in Shibuya and the two Okinawan stelai.

On a slightly different note, what leads to inclusion on the struck list is not entirely plain sailing. Eg the Taiheiki entry: seemingly there were once thirteen scrolls, one was lost, and there are now twelve, as per the database, so the entire designation doesn't seem to have been struck, just updated. The latest preface refers in passing to the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake and Tsunami, according to which wiki page 754 cultural properties were damaged, as well as the 2016 Kumamoto earthquake; however the supplement of (5) losses since 2008 includes only the water tank of the Ishioka First Power Plant, described as "damaged" in the 2011 earthquake (designation of the other components of this entry continues per the database). The Yūbikan collapsed but has been rebuilt; the designation of 旧有備館および庭園 as an historic site & place of scenic beauty continues. Rokkakudō (Kitaibaraki) was swept away and has been rebuilt; formerly a registered tangible cultural property, it no longer appears in the national database, and the prefectural listing has been updated accordingly, from this to this; this does not make it into the book, but perhaps might appear on the wiki page, with the relevant clarifications. (The main building (Seiden) of Shuri Castle appears in the book, under the guise of Okinawa Jinja Haiden; rebuilt (and likely to be again..) it is not in the database (although there is still the historic site).) Also, there are very few properties showing as lost in the Great Kanto Earthquake - per Okura Museum of Art, losses included one of the dry lacquer statue group of the Ten Great Disciples of which there are several at Kōfuku-ji (National Treasures). Perhaps, separated from the others, this hadn't been designated? Also, this is at National Level, there have presumably been prefectural and municipal losses - and indeed the number of properties per the stats, particularly at municipal level, may go down significantly from one year to the next, so presumably some entries are struck, as also appears to be the case with some of the (published) prefectural listings in relation to promotion to national level designation, where sometimes there are seemingly duplicate entries, sometimes entries with the comment that this no longer a prefectural but now a national property, and sometimes no longer an entry at all, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, what about about (Tangible) Folk Cultural Properties that may be lost; and Intangibles/Conservation Techniques - I haven't come across or tracked individual entries enough to be able to say anything about what happens when e.g. a holder dies, particular if the last living practitioner.Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So what shall we do now? "Old National Treasures" or "Former National Treasures" or split the objects into NT and Important Cultural Properties? Gryffindor (talk) 22:30, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the main point of all this is to be able to identify, highlight, and focus upon, within the domain of all Japanese cultural production, those (relatively few) instances that have been judged to be/are most significant and worthy of attention, which surely includes former national treasures that almost made it to today (about which a reasonable amount is known, there are photos, etc); it also fleshes out something Bamse and others have flagged on the National Treasure talk page as of interest/relevance to the topic; on the whole (Japanese) cultural property listings here generally eschew e.g. date of designation as being of most relevance to the (secondary) designation system rather than what is really of note, the assets themselves (though per the lowest hanging fruit/most obvious and notable example principle, where there is still a large number of items and ?insufficient? differentiation, date of designation might generally equate to relative importance - in year 1 the Sistine Chapel etc).

I see Category:Old National Treasures of Japan has the clarification "An old National Treasure (旧国宝) of Japan is for all entries before 1945 that were destroyed during the Pacific War, or were downgraded to Important Cultural Property afterwards" - I personally think that tagging with this category those (extant) properties designated under the old (leaving aside important art objects) one tier system as national treasures but which, along with current national treasures, were reclassified as ICPs under the new two tier system, and haven't since been promoted to the top tier is not so helpful, since then we effectively have two ICP categories, first designated pre- and first designated post-1950. As ICPs include NTs, and presumably these pages are already tagged with an ICP category, I don't think having a second tag of former NT/first designated pre-1950 adds much other than for those particularly interested in the designation system per se.

If the book is right that only three important art objects have been lost, perhaps were these ever to have their own articles, these might be omitted from the Old National Treasure category; if at some point it is also found that e.g. several intangibles are no longer recognised as such, potentially an additional category of former cultural properties could be created, which would include the Old NT one; I guess where an old(/former ?as clearer to the uninitiated?) ICP category might be useful would be if there are several properties with their own articles first designated (as such) post 1950 that are then lost/struck (such as 旧住友家俣野別邸 - or, apparently, a Heian statue of Amida Nyorai at Enryaku-ji first designated in 1955, as an ICP, and destroyed in 1956), but at the moment so far as I know there aren't any such pages. Seemingly the only immediate benefit in extending the current category to Former Cultural Properties would be that we could also tag the (registered) Rokkakudo (Kitaibaraki), but maybe that can wait, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken the name from the Japanese Wiki article where they refer to "old" (旧国宝) vs. "new" (post-war) National Treasures. Re-naming the category into "Former Cultural Properties of Japan" also does not make sense since those that survived are still designated as Important under the post-war system. Do you have any suggestions? Gryffindor (talk) 10:11, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:14, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Does Baji Rao I clears the DYK Nomination. Mahusha (talk) 11:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I believe so (I gave it a "tick", simply flagging that there was a slight question mark over the GA review (as the reviewer appears to have been/become a persona non grata), in case this is of relevance to those promoting the hook); an interesting page, though all new to me, thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

I noticed that you moved a few photos from ja.wiki to Commons. Have you tried FileImporter? That's a great way to move files. It moved the file history and I think it is much better than the other tools.

You can use it by adding it from Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures on the wiki you wanna move files from. And you can read more about it at this site.

It is possible to set up FileImporter so that almost no cleanup is needed after the file have been moved to Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 09:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I hadn't heard of it but have now checked the box in my Preferences on ja.wiki and run it for the first time "in anger" [3] (actually, it seems to have worked fine, transferring the history; I see, unlike the images I moved using CommonsHelper, the file no longer appears in my Uploads (not that that's a problem)); thanks for the tip, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 12:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That looks great! Yes the file will not be in your uploads. It will be in the uploads by the person who uploaded it originally. I think that's nice :-) Why anger?

May I ask what files you like to move? Anything special or just moving to Commons? If you wanna move a lot of files you can move lots of files from ja:Category:Files uploaded by Bakkai. I prepared the files with my bot so the result should be rather good on Commons. --MGA73 (talk) 12:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lots there and lots transferred; I tend to transfer cultural property related images I'm about to use on an en.wiki page, but this user [4] also has lots of good ones; he seems to upload outdoor images to Commons and museum objects to ja.wiki (whether uncertain about licensing on Commons or what I don't know); there's also a backlog of outdoor images from before he started uploading to Commons; unless they can be transferred en masse, it's probably slowly slowly as and when with all of these, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that's a great user! All files seems to have the {{Information}} template and that makes things much easier. I do not speak Japanese so I "cheat" and just move the files without adding categories. Mass moving of files solves 3 problems: 1) Files on ja.wiki can only be used on ja.wiki, 2) files on ja.wiki have not been through the license migration process related to GFDL files and 3) many files are moved badly from ja.wiki to Commons but if I fix the files before transfer and users move files via FileImporter it is much better. I moved hundred of files related to trains and there are some super fast users on Commons to categorize files. If you find a good user that have many files without an information template you can give me a tip and I can perhaps add it with my bot. --MGA73 (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Check out c:Category:Files uploaded by Saigen Jiro :-) --MGA73 (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that's absolutely fantastic, would have taken me months! I see what you mean with the quick Japanese categorizers for the User:Bakkai transfers; also, had issues with FileImporter for a day or so (I see you did too), but it seems to be working well again, this is great, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lol yes I'm happy someone else fixed the categories so I should only do the transfers. There was a few questions about photos taken in museums. Apart from that there were only a problem with 2 files that did not transfer correctly. I left them so the developers have a chance to see the file pages. I'm not sure they are admins on Commons.

I also move files from vi.wiki and it seems like I persuaded local admins to move the files. So I only have to prepare them with my bot and they moved/delete the files. --MGA73 (talk) 19:09, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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For sure @Maculosae tegmine lyncis:, i'll answer good and clear. Readers may in any way benefit from being deprived deprived of potentially interesting information about Japanese tigers or Israeli hippos mostly because when readers first have no idea that Hippos actually existed in the levant during the Iron Age, they'll be so surprised that hippos were not always confined to the African continent. The climate in the levant back then was much more humid than it is today, which in turn the environment there would have resembled of what we see in the African Serengeti, now one thing is clear while hippos are more often associated with Africa today, this has not been entirely the case they were once widespread across the African continent, the levant, and Europe but due to glacial shifts, they quickly disappeared in Europe and became restricted to the African continent and the middle east until they became extinct in the middle east in the Iron Age. Now for the Tigers former presence in Japan, when people of tigers they think of them as being only found in South and East Asia as well as the Russian far east but excluding japan at present, the reason why tigers were present in Japan was because when glaciers were shifting from one place to another, Japan back then was connected to the Asian mainland before it lost it's land connections with the mainland and the climate plus environment made it suitable place for the tigers to inhabit there, but by the time glaciers were retreating northwards, sea levels were slowly rising up, climate change, prey decreasing, and possibly habitat change, the tiger could not bare with the change that was happening in Japan and soon became extinct there. Hope that answered your question correctly. -- Animalworlds314 (talk) 22:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: thank you, very sweet of you, can't believe it has been ten years; hope you have a musical Easter, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 07:41, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, and yes, for a change Easter will be with choral singing which hasn't happened in three years. Yesterday, a selected group was active (4 sopranos, 4 altos, 2 tenors, 3 basses), today (the other church) some more will sing (also distanced, but with more space), and same tomorrow. On Sunday, Schubert mass by another selected group, but without me, - see my talk and my programs - best wishes for you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Could you please have a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Fyodor Arturovich Keller? I have added the required references. Thank you very much. Grandmaster 22:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Maculosae tegmine lyncis: , this artwork "Ryūkyū Trading Port, byōbu" (琉球交易港図屏風) is listed as a Cultural Property of Japan: Ryukyu Trading Port (Urasoe Art Museum).jpg . However, there is another artwork that looks almost the same. It is called 「琉球進貢船図屏風」京都大学総合博物館蔵 ((Ryukyu Tribute Ship Folding Screen), Kyoto University Museum. So there are 3 versions which are similar, one in Kyoto University, Shiga University and Urasoe Museum. See this PDF file with 2 other versions. Are all these 3 cultural properties? I uploaded the other version on Wiki Commons. -Artanisen (talk) 02:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Artanisen: Hi, as far as I can make out, at present only the Urasoe folding screen(s) are a designated cultural property—Kyoto University Museum is in Sakyō-ku, and the municipal-level listing here and prefectural- here (and national- here) draw a blank for that one; similarly, re the Shiga one, 滋賀大学経済学部付属史料館 is in Hikone, and that version is not listed here. According to hdl:10487/14494, doi:10.3130/aija.71.129_3, and hdl:2241/101962, as well as another Urasoe version, a three-scroll painting「琉球交易港図」(illustrated in the document you link), there's also「首里那覇港図屏風」(Okinawa Prefectural Museum) and「那覇港図屏風」(Shuri Castle Park); only the Urasoe screens are a cultural property per the Okinawa listings here (national & prefectural) and here (municipal), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, on the Ryukyu Kingdom article I updated the image with this version , because it's higher quality. If you can find a higher quality version of the Urasoe folding screen then we can update it with that one. -Artanisen (talk) 01:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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November songs

my story today

Thank you for the article, nice to see it on the Main page! - I raised a question on WP:ERRORS (why quotation marks for the name, not italics), but should perhaps just asked you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello—thank you for drawing my attention to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Visual arts (it looks like the issue has been fixed; as you say, the name is (almost certainly!) not original). PS am currently enjoying a mini-Polish sacred vocal music series at SMITF, though I don't recognize many of the names, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:12, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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story · music · places

Thank you for the interesting article, leading to a great pictured DYK! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK, same set) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you; I'm just back from the (smaller theatre at the) Royal Opera House, Vivaldi's L'Olimpiade, so beautiful, yet somehow a rarity, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:22, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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story · music · places

Thank you for an interesting news itam! (I doubt, though, that "a new waltz" is a good translation of the title, but "a newly discovered sketch of a waltz" is probably too long for DYK purposes). - I look forward to an opera today, my story. Happiness and sadness under music, travel pics under places (unfinished). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the links you keep adding are not particularly useful. One is already in the references, the other two are in Japanese. What is the added value here? Tone 08:28, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More to the point, you keep removing links that are particularly useful. The added value is that you don't need to trawl through dozens of references to find the key English language link - and you can also find the key host nation links, which you removed on the grounds that the old links were dead, whereas these links are not, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't delete useful material and particularly not while discuss is ongoing (trim some of the excess verbiage and repetitious padding recently added instead). The Japanese material includes, amongst other things, information relating to the tentative sites. Thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot translate the Japanese sites so I don't know if these are something like Japanese national agency source or any of the 3rd party pages, in first case these are fine, in the second, they are not. The UNESCO external link is redundant and should not be listed there. It never is in a series of Featured Lists, where standards are high. This one is currently undergoing a nomination so it should be stable. Please stop disrupting. Tone 14:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From even the most cursory of glances at the English on the Japanese sites, the two ja links are Agency for Cultural Affairs sources. Presumably it'll be a "snow close" or whatever the saying is, not least as this wiki page seemingly has only one source in the references, the one en external link; Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 08:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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