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Instrument photos
Hi, now that school holidays are over(!) I'm wondering if I should set up a project page, even if it's just a dairy of what I'm up to. Would that be appropriate? If so, where would be a good place - a sub page of the NZ notice board, or of my user page? I suppose I could make a start and then move it later. I'm hoping to gather the clans and get some photos organised for the last couple of weeks of August. — Jon (talk) 21:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've finished work on Draft:List of shipwrecks of Southland. As you started this draft, do you want to submit it for review, or do you think I should do so, or shall I simply move it to article space? I was thinking when I started work on it that I might create similar lists for other regions of New Zealand, but I've had my fill of the subject for now so I don't intend to pursue that idea in the immediate future.-Gadfium (talk) 03:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gadfium You have put a huge amount of work into this list - wow :). I am travelling at present and time is a bit limited. I will have a good look over the list article and get back to you with feedback (if any) within a few days, and then I suggest you move the article into mainspace. Once that is done, I will remove the existing list of shipwrecks from the Foveaux Strait article, leaving just a summary and a link to the new list article. Marshelec (talk) 05:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosperosity Hi, I have found what appear to be legal land boundaries for Bushy Park on the Horizons Regional Council GIS system. I have taken a screen shot and roughly marked up in red, my understanding of the outer perimeter of the Bushy Park property, including the homestead and its gardens. Here is a link to my screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t1AxLZ2sQlS4kBFNyrF_gMYoc3nAM9HG/view?usp=drive_link I have previously looked into Open Street Map (and I have a user account). What steps would I have to go through to create a decent outline of the perimeter of Bushy Park in OSM, ie what approach is most practical for drawing/ tracing the boundaries ?_Marshelec (talk) 23:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! I stand corrected, Bushy Park is already on OSM and already between OSM and Wikidata (it just wasn't showing up when I searched for it). That means you should be able to display the area of the park in the infobox. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aha - it's the infobox type which wasn't displaying the OSM polygon. How does that look? (we can also change the colour of the border). Prosperosity (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful! For the article, I'd suggest formatting the images slightly differently - splitting them up into 1 main image per section, with galleries for some sections such as the fauna/flora. At the moment on my screen they tend to run-on, which means some of the images aren't placed in the sections where they make the most sense (e.g. the main photo for the fauna section on my screen is the young nīkau palms image).
I've also noticed some repetition in content in the wetland/education/visitor centre sections - I wonder if some of these could be combined, or if some of the sections would flow better with a different format (the homestead section feels like it should be above the visitor centre section, since there are references to the stable there that make sense if the homestead is discussed first). Prosperosity (talk) 23:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Canley Hi, I thought you might be interested in a couple of articles I have created about carousels in Melbourne and Geelong, after a recent visit.
Geelong Carousel ride - July 2024
We thought the Geelong Carousel was absolutely great - a fantastic restoration job, and a wonderful symbol of the revitalisation of the Geelong Waterfront that was undertaken from around 1996 to 2000. We were big kids and took a ride. Have a look at the video.:) I hope to get feedback on this article and new sources from the Geelong city authorities who own and operate the carousel. However, it has been two weeks since I emailed them and no reply so far.
After researching the Geelong Carousel, I found that there is an even older fully-restored and heritage-listed carousel at Melbourne Zoo (must see this on my next visit). I have created and published a second article: Melbourne Zoo Carousel. There is also a particularly fancy restored carousel at Luna Park in Melbourne, so I may carry on with this theme and prepare yet another carousel article.:)
The artist Patricia Mullins was heavily involved in the restoration of these carousels - particularly the restoration of the carousel horses. The article about her could do with some improvement, so I may give this a go. I found an email address for her and sent a message inviting feedback about the two carousel articles, but again I have not had a response. If you are interested, have a look at the two articles - I would love to expand these with more details of the restoration work, but I have not yet found suitable sources. (Hence my queries to the City of Geelong, and to Patricia Mullins.)_Marshelec (talk) 04:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Women in architecture
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@Prosperosity Kia ora. I have another enquiry about a map. This morning I have created a draft Wikipedia article Draft:Kaikōura Dark Sky Sanctuary (It has just been formally accredited). I have also created a Wikidata item: [1] It would be great to add a map to the article, but I am still not sufficiently experienced in Open Street Map to do this without help.
Perhaps you can have a look at what might be needed, and if you think it should be possible for me to do this, please give me some pointers. This newspaper article shows a map of the sanctuary.[2]. As far as I can see, it is the entire Kaikōura District, less a small irregular shape shown in the illustration in the newspaper. See also the application document here:[3]. Apart from my general lack of experience in using OSM, I have a few questions:
I see that there is a territorial boundary (Administrative Boundary in OSM) for Kaikōura District in Open Street map. Is there a way of producing a copy of this boundary that can be used for the map of the sanctuary, and can be edited to show the "take-out" for the town (and is that the most appropriate way to start) ? Being able to copy the existing district boundary would save a huge amount of time.
What is the most practical way of tracing the "take-out" for the town ?
Is it necessary to trace along the coastline ? I presume so, but am not sure.
I would like to gain experience by doing some editing in OSM. Is this a suitable starting project, or is this one too tricky ?
I think it might be possible if you create a way in OSM for the border around the town, split the Kaikoura District boundary way at those two points, then create a relation that's the new boundary and the remaining parts of the district, both labelled as "inner" for the relation. I've never tried this before, but in theory it'd work.
One thing is that you might not be able to see if the map's working or not if the page isn't a live Wikipedia page (i.e. after the draft has gone through).
It seems wrong that an IP editor has completely reverted a talk page comment. Even if you don't agree with something posted on a talk page, unless it is your own post, or is slanderous or otherwise illegal, then surely it should not be reverted ?? I wasn't quite sure what action to take ? Can you either action this, or recommend what I should do ? Thanks Marshelec (talk) 22:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hm. Not sure about that one, Marshelec. The IP says that they have no reliable sources. I'm not sure whether talk pages come under WP:BLP. If yes, then the statement must be removed. Maybe have a poke around for policy or guidance. Schwede6622:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The IP uses both 2407:... and 49:... ranges (judging on similarity of edits, and they're both Vodafone mobile). They added that the mayor is right wing with one, and added a minor controversy with sources with the other. I removed the assertion he is right wing because it was unsourced, and the IP explained they don't have a suitable source on the talk page. The IP then removed their own talk page message. There's nothing problematic here if you accept this is one person using two different devices, or one device somehow connecting to the network in different ways, and they're obviously not trying to pretend they're different people.-Gadfium (talk) 01:04, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Noted your correct "Reworded/modified the claim about the uniqueness of the exposure above sea-level and added one citation. Another citation is probably required." I had noted this claim too and never got around to checking it in depth (so to speak). The Moho under Macquarie Island is 5–6 km as I recall while under Iceland 40-16 km due to sort of continental crust associated with the hot spot plume. Can I suggest to be even more pedantically correct you could phase it "only oceanic crust mid-ocean ridge, if you can find a suitable reference. Iceland does has hot spot contamination and the documented tendency for brief maturation of its basalts at holding reservoirs about 5 km deep but some seem to come very quickly up from Moho depths with minimal contamination so perhaps Icelandic geologists would disagree with the claims of Australian geologists, given say their recent hot sampling of the new Reykjanes fires. ChaseKiwi (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChaseKiwi Thanks for responding so promptly. I am on a subantarctic expedition cruise and we are anchored off Maquarie Island as I write this. I am keen to substantially improve the content about geography and geology in this article during my visit and while we make our way back to New Zealand. As and when you are available, I would greatly appreciate your feedback on any further content that I add._Marshelec (talk) 19:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Pigsonthewing Hi, I seek some advice about using cite Q please. In an article I am working on, it is convenient to use a cite Q template to form one of the "Sources cited", separately from the normal "References" where the inline cites appear. This works fine. My question is how best to deal with the inline requirement to cite the source and the page number. I tried using the Sfn template but it doesn't seem to work correctly with cite Q. An alternative is to change to using the cite Q inline, along with the Rp template to give the page number. What is the best approach ?_Marshelec (talk) 06:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had already noted your issues at Macquarie Island. I have now rather than maintain reference style as I did with your Russ source changed to snf style solution for cite Q. You should change all those old references to sfn style however so article has one style. Otherwise revert to non Harvard style. ChaseKiwi (talk) 23:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, have a look at my GA articles e.g. serpent, I've been using Cite Q and sfn everywhere. The solution I found was to supply date and author name parameters to the Cite Q bibliography citations, so the Harvard templates pick it up automatically without having to use ref= everywhere. — Jon (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Jons workaround duplicates data which shows one of the many imperfections of the wikidata concept as it can have different metadata constructs to those of the English wikipedia. ChaseKiwi (talk) 02:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I note there isn't an article for the Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail yet,[1] but if you start one, we could mention the very small Waitaki Valley wine region, which is nevertheless a proper geographical indication and probably should also have its own article. I stumbled upon the connection in an article in The Real Review about Valli wines, and their wine bar in Kurow which is a popular whistle-stop for cyclists on the trail.[2] Perhaps I'll make a start with stubbing out the wine region from New Zealand wine. — Jon (talk) 06:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66 I intend to create a new article about the notable bridge over the Hutt River at Waione Street, but seek your opinion about the most appropriate article title. The issue is that the (older) sources that provide the richest detail about the bridge call it the Hutt Estuary Bridge, see examples here: [5], and [6], and [7]. However, there are frequent (and more recent) passing mentions in multiple sources that refer to it as the "Waione Bridge" or "Waione Street Bridge". Is it best to choose "Waione Street Bridge" because it has the most recent occurrences, even though they are generally passing mentions, or should I choose Hutt Estuary Bridge because it this is the name used in the most substantive sources. ?._Marshelec (talk) 07:35, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi @Panamitsu and thanks for the feedback. I have worked on these articles over a prolonged period. They don't get many page-views. Yes, there is overlap between the two articles. I split off content about water supply into a separate article because I thought the "main" article was getting too long. Some content about water supply is retained in the "main" article, but there is more detail about water supply in the Water supply article. By the way, the article title "Water supply and sanitation in ..." follows the titles of other WP articles about the "three waters". However, the term "sanitation" is not ideal in a New Zealand context because we don't use that term much. Possible options for these articles could be:
further split the "main" article - perhaps moving the content about wastewater to a separate article, and then trimming the main article.
just trim the content about water supply that remains in the "main" article at present, so as to reduce the extent of overlap
revisit both articles to see if there is content that is "dated" and/or not sufficiently important to be retained, to enable the merging of the two articles (but the size of the merged article would need to be kept within reasonable bounds)
I would be interested in your thoughts. I am happy to get stuck into these articles again within the next few weeks, when my commitments to supporting summer track & field athletics come to an end. Your feedback will be helpful. We should probably transfer further discussion to the talk page of the main article. :)_Marshelec (talk) 06:34, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick response. I'll leave this up to you (or others) if you feel like working on this, because I unfortunately know nothing about this topic so I don't think I could be of much help. ―Panamitsu(talk)06:43, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to apologise for this. I've now realised that making a suggestion to someone on an article without many page views, and without offering to help, is probably quite annoying. Sorry. ―Panamitsu(talk)22:14, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu Not a problem at all :) Feedback is always useful, and your comments will prompt me to get back to these articles at some stage fairly soon. There is new content to add anyway because two substantial new pipe bridges, conveying the bulk water from the Kaitoke catchment of the Hutt River have been built recently, as part of making the water supply more resilient against earthquakes. I hope to take my own photos of these new bridges to add to the article.Marshelec (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu Given your work on articles about earthquakes, you might be interested in what I am working on right now. See: User:Marshelec/sandbox4. I have previously put a large amount of effort into the originally very short and inadequate article Kahurangi National Park - expanding it about ten-fold. However, I was aware that the park has particularly complex, diverse and unusual geology, but I lacked the background knowledge to do a decent job of writing up suitable content. I spoke to a friend who has a geology background, and after a long wait, he has now donated a large amount of content that will make a whole new article. I am in the process of "wikifying" what he has given me. He is also working on preparing a map that will go with the article. Significant work will be needed to create a summary section that can be imported in the main KNP article. If any of this interests you, please let me know - perhaps we can collaborate in review and integration of the content that has been donated._Marshelec (talk) 23:05, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have to say that that's some really good work there, both from you and the friend of yours. As for collaboration, I don't really understand anything about geology -- I'm mostly interested in the response to earthquakes (demolitions, cordons, red zones, etc) rather than the underground stuff, but this does seem interesting so I would like to help with the "wikifying". ―Panamitsu(talk)23:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu It would be great to have your help. I have been working through the draft from the top, using the original reference numbers and reference information at the bottom of the draft to create template-based citations. I have deliberately left in the original citation numbers, for transparency when I show the draft to my contact who has donated this material. They will be deleted later. I have also done my best to add wikilinks to specialist terms etc. I am probably not going to be able to work on this again until Monday or Tuesday, so if you can spare any time to carry on with that kind of "wikifying" of the sandbox draft then please go ahead. One of the content-related issues that has already occurred to me is the need to expand, clarify or explain the terminology "arc-related" in a volcanic context. I am an electrical engineer by training, so you can imagine that I was puzzled by this terminology, to say the least ! Cheers, Marshelec (talk) 00:03, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes haha. I've had a bit of a go and have had more fun than I expected. Although I have one question: What does "6(70)" mean? Does it mean page 70 of reference 6? ―Panamitsu(talk)06:42, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu Sorry, I didn't get back to you about this one. I have realised that the 6(70) means it is number 70 of the "Wonders" described in Hayward (2022). As noted in my other reply below, I will get the page numbers from viewing the book at the National Library. Marshelec (talk) 07:48, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bulbinella rossii
@Alexeyevitch Thanks for mentioning your work on the article Bulbinella rossii during the online meetup today. I am fortunate to have visited the Sub-antarctic Islands and have seen huge fields of Bulbinella rossii in flower. They were a spectacular sight - particularly on Enderby Island, where they have flourished after the removal of grazing animals. I have a couple of good photos showing B rossii that would be useful additions to c:Category:Bulbinella_rossii. I will find these later and add them. One shows a banded dotterel amongst a group of B. rossi. Marshelec (talk) 02:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Marshelec. You're totally right! Bulbinella rossii is truly a spectacular plant! Its long and glabrous leaves combined with its golden flowers, would've been a really awesome sight to see to see in-person. I've never been to the sub-Antarctic, but I would like to at some point in the future. This article was challenging to write, as there weren't many sources available but I did my best to make it hit all major points and to make it engaging. The photos would be a great addition aswell! Alexeyevitch(talk)03:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Geology and Geomorphology of Kahurangi National Park
@Panamitsu Thank you for so much help in wikifying the citations in the draft content I am working on about the Geology and Geomorphology of Kahurangi National Park. Greatly appreciated. I have ordered a copy of one of the main references (Geology of the Nelson area), so that I can review it myself. I will aim to add page numbers for some of the main references. There are also some minor points of style in the text that need review including words such as "impressive" and "fine example". Plus I will need a summary section that is suitable for inclusion in the National Park article. I will try to keep up progress with work on the draft. Thanks again for your help.Marshelec (talk) 08:43, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was good fun to work on and I might end up working on that "wikifying" a bit more at some point if there's still more to do when I'm ready for it. By the way, in my recent project of creating articles for New Zealand snails (with the help of AxonsArachnida), I created the article Cytora kahurangi today which, to my surprise, was named after Kahurangi National Park. ―Panamitsu(talk)10:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have requested a copy of Hayward (2022) at the National Library, and will review that over the next week, to obtain page numbers for each of the citations from that source. A larger job is to add page numbers for the large number of citations of Rattenbury, M.S.; Cooper, R.A.; Johnston, M.R. (1998). I have obtained a copy and will try to work through this over the next couple of weeks, in between other jobs. The next step would be to create a decent lead section of say, 3-4 paragraphs. I may ask my friend to assist. Then finally, I think it would be reasonably complete. I am unsure about whether to keep working on it in the sandbox, or just go ahead and publish it largely as it is, and then work on it in main article space._Marshelec (talk) 07:44, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good! I suppose that if you put it in main article space then more people would become aware of it and as a result might help work on it. ―Panamitsu(talk)09:03, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’d say that after wikifying the last handful of citations, this is ready for mainspace. Note that it needs to be moved so to not lose the edit history. Page numbers can come later. Fascinating article! Schwede6618:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66 Kia ora, I have created a new article Pākawau. Lots more can no doubt be added, particularly about the history. There are lots of mentions of the coal mine in Papers Past - I have only scratched the surface. There are also a few historic images in DigitalNZ, from the Nelson Provincial Museum. Also a couple in the Alexander Turnbull Library See: [8]. Perhaps there is even a local history ?? Maybe you could check out the local library ? It would also be good to get a better photo. The one you took of the road is a start, but something showing the beach might be better. Cheers,_Marshelec (talk) 05:12, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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@Minorax Hi, I see that you replaced the Forest & Bird logo file with an svg format version, and this is why the jpg version I added to the infobox a few years ago is now orphaned (and can be deleted). That's all fine, but I would like to know how to do a better job with logos in future. What technique did you use to produce the svg file ?. Thanks _Marshelec (talk) 02:24, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66 You might not have seen this notice posted by a user who attended Wikicon2025: User_talk:Jonathanischoice#Hiatus
I have been in touch, and received some progress updates. It seems like he has been fortunate. I hope he will soon feel well enough to return to the things he enjoys, and perhaps continue his work on articles about musical instruments.:) Let's hope so._Marshelec (talk) 07:30, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
