When creating biographies, don't forget to use Template:DEFAULTSORT. Accessible from "Wiki markup" at the foot of the page being edited, it allows categories to be listed under the subject's family name rather than their first or given name.
Hi Netherzone, I couldn't figure out how to email you - hope its ok to leave this message here! Can you possibly add something to my page? Thanks of you can! As follows:
In the 2025-2026 season, Knight will be included in Site Santa Fe 12th International, titled Once Within a Time and curated by Cecilia Alemani. Carpenter6 (talk) 15:44, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Karla, I'm sorry I am unable to do that because there are two issues at play here. Adding something that has not yet occurred could be construed as both promotional/self-promotional, and WP:CRYSTALBALL, the latter meaning that future events are very seldom added to an article because there's always the possibility that an event (or participation in this case) might not manifest in the future; for example if an institution lost funding, the show was cancelled or a curator changed jobs. Secondly, we don't add content without a verifiable independent reliable source. Word of mouth is not enough. I'd suggest to be patient, wait until the show actually occurs and if your work is mentioned in-depth in a review in a reliable source, then it might be relevant to add + the citation. Please consider adding this content to your own personal website or social media which are more appropriate venues to promote these types of things rather than the encyclopedia. Courtesy ping @Carpenter6. Best regards, Netherzone (talk) 00:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for improving article quality in April! - My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi @Netherzone, I’ve been working on a draft article for Sachiko Hayashi and left a note on the draft’s talk page a little while ago. Just wanted to follow up here to make sure the ping went through. If you have a moment, I’d really appreciate it if you could take a quick look and let me know if there’s anything I might have missed or misunderstood. Thanks so much again for your time and support. Sachikosky (talk) 08:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've been meaning to leave you a message to let you know that you single-handedly restored my faith in the AfD process. I really thought this article about a genuinely notable Canadian artist was going to be deleted, when people fought so hard over articles like ElderTreks... Thank you! MediaKyle (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi MediaKyle, thanks so much for your kind words. It was great to "meet you" at the AfD. I was previously unfamiliar with Stankievech's work but once I started BEFORE-searching I was truly impressed with the work he has done, really great stuff, and so globally relevant. It's always nice to discover things on WP, it's one of the things I like about working at AfD. I wondered a bit about the nomination since the editor only has made only 6 edits all of which were to try to delete the article when there was so much good content on this artist that was easily available. (BTW, I missed the ElderTreks AfD, as I usually focus on visual arts topics.) Thanks again for your friendly note, I look forward to seeing you around in the community! Netherzone (talk) 17:29, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful! Thank you, Gerda. My garden is abloom with azaleas, columbine, wood hyacinth. The lilacs have faded, and the roses are "getting ready"! Netherzone (talk) 20:58, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes Issue 68, March–April 2025
In this issue we highlight two resource renewals, #EveryBookItsReader, a note about Phabricator, and, as always, a roundup of news and community items related to libraries and digital knowledge.
I noticed your recent edit to the image caption on the Meteor Crater article, where you added the word "cropped" to describe the image. Thank you for contributing your time and effort to improving the article.
I am a little puzzled by this change. While it's true that the image is cropped, it seems unusual to highlight this detail directly in the caption. From what I’ve observed across Wikipedia, captions usually focus on the content or context of the image—rather than on the editing process itself, unless the crop significantly alters interpretation or is disputed. I cropped the image to remove the surrounding desert land and bring forth the crater, none of which altered the context nor topic of he image. Moreover, I crop many--perhaps most--of the photographs I post on Wikimedia Commons, including one which is recognized as a featured image.
It seems if every cropped image were labeled as such, we'd be rewriting captions across a great deal of Wikimedia Commons. Please share your reasoning. I'm curious if there's a particular guideline or precedent you had in mind. I want to understand, and if it's something I’ve overlooked, I’d be grateful to hear from you. Most kind regards.Hu Nhu (talk) 15:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Hu Nhu, thank you for reaching out. That was my mistake, I cropped the image using Crop Tool (which renamed the file, adding the word cropped), but I forgot to edit the caption. It's fixed now. Thanks for pointing out the error and for uploading the original file.
I also was thinking that it might be improved a little with a few mild adjustments such as sharpening and contrast, and adding a bit of saturation. I'm pretty good with PhotoShop, and I wouldn't overly adjust the image, but wanted to ask whether you would be amenable to that. It could always be reverted to the original. Please let me know, I'm always happy to improve images on Wikipedia. All the best, and thank you again, Netherzone (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Netherzone#top. Thank you for your kind reply and your attention to my edit. You've excellent ideas to adjust the photo and I look forward to seeing the resulting improvements. Please make sure take credit for the improvements--I am not able to do PhotoShop edits myself, and I appreciate your efforts very much. I look forward to seeing your work on the photo. Most kind regards, Hu Nhu (talk) 16:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hu Nhu, sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you. I tried improving the image in Photoshop, but there just isn't enough data in the image to make any relevant improvements. It's seems to have been shot with a cell phone zoomed in to maximum, soft focus, and low resolution. I've left the file as is because I wasn't satisfied with the results. Still, it's a nice photo, and thanks so much for uploading it. Netherzone (talk) 23:17, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You are quite perceptive and accurate in every aspect of your analysis, and I am sorry that you were unable to improve on the work. I was flying out of Texas and happened to be in the window seat when I saw this magnificent landform and took the photograph. Thank you for your attention to the image. Kind regards to all, Hu Nhu (talk) 04:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in June!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 1 month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 June 2025 through 30 June 2025.
Hi Netherzone,
Could you take a look at the stub for The American Supermarket? I think it is fine for a stub, but I'd like to know what you think. At your convenience, of course.
I am finding it hard to find documentation that this was pivotal show or where exactly it falls in the Pop art timeline. I see that it is an early show and a very clever idea. I want to suggest this a a target for redirect for the Ben Birillo article. He seems to be famous for curating this show, butthat is it. The show is far more interesting.
Meanwhile I am trying to figure out if the artist was Diane Inman[1] or Mary Inman.[2] I have used diane in the article. I am also looking for review in the New York Times. I got sort of turned around while composing this so lost the scant reference to the fact that the show was reviewed in both NYT and Life (not the article cited in the Ben Birillo article) and that it traveled to Europe. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @WomenArtistUpdates, thanks for your note. The stub looks fine. Thank you for creating it! I am reminded of Claus Oldenberg's installation, The Store, from 1961 [1], [2], which preceded The American Supermarket. (And more recently on this theme, Meow Wolf's interactive art spectacle, Omega Mart. :) I agree that it may sense for the Ben Brillo article to be redirected there if that is all he is known for. Regarding Diane or Mary Inman - I will see what I can find out. Netherzone (talk) 13:27, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The original poster for American Supermarket says Mary Inman, and this Artsy synopsis uses Mary Inman: [3], as does this Art & Antiques article: [4] and the NYT review [5]. Could it be they are the same person, who sometimes used her first name and sometimes her middle name? Netherzone (talk) 13:35, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For example, he made edits simultaneously in Navitas Petroleum in the Hebrew and English at the same time. He made disclosure in the Hebrew entry, but avoid doing this in the English one. This is only one example, how come that each of his edits in the Hebrew Wikipedia he write that they are paid, and in English only a handful, and even that, only after investigation ?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0D:6FC7:727:839:4002:845D:77A:92DD (talk) 11:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
IP, thank you for your concern, could you please post this on the link I left for you: WP:COIN#User:mrksh, compare to hebrew and explain this? I only noticed the problem while doing New Page Patrols. That way it will get an administrator's attention. I don't have the authority to do anything to stop it because I am not an administrator. And also please include links to all the articles where this is occurring. Also, I don't read nor write Hebrew, so I'm not sure if machine translations are accurate. Is their user name on Hebrew WP also MrEksh or is it something else? I'm pinging an administrator @Star Mississippi who may be able to take a look at the situation when they have time. Please, in the meantime, do list all the articles that are relevant.
By the way, it looks like MrEksh only added citations to the Navitas Petroleum article which isn't a big problem, although they should still should have used the article talk page or the Edit Request Wizard. Thank you for helping to keep WP free of undisclosed paid editing. Netherzone (talk) 12:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tip about machine translations
Hey Netherzone. In this comment [6] you said that a sentence filled with typos could be "a bad machine translation job". Machine translated and LLM-generated content never has typos (unless added by the editor afterwards). This kind of garbled text looks more like a bad OCR job, like someone copying text from a PDF scan of a book, though the unprofessional wording and missing punctuation suggests that's not the case here. So they're probably just typos. Best, Toadspike[Talk]15:40, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who are the most overlooked and interesting Women in Red? We've no idea, but we're putting together our list of the 100 most interesting ex-Women in Red. We are creating the list to celebrate 10 years of Women in Red and we hope to present it at Wikimania. We are ignoring the obvious, so do you have a name or subject we should consider? Can you suggest a DYK style hook? If you are shy about editing that page, you are welcome to add ideas and comments on the talk page.
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Thanks for your recent edits and for helping improve the *Impressionist photography* article. I really appreciate your attention to original research and source quality. I agree it's important to make it reliable.
I’m still learning how to contribute properly on Wikipedia, and I know there’s a lot to get right. At the moment, I’m reading several academic books to improve the article step by step. Since it takes time to gather and verify reliable secondary sources, I’m updating gradually as I go.
If you notice anything I could do better or if you have advice, I’d be very happy to hear it.
Hi @OctaveCoelio, thank you for reaching out and your kind words. And thanks for working on the article. As I'm sure you noticed, there are some problems with it. It may have been created using an AI program which accounts for the many sourcing errors, for example one exhibit was sourced to an article about a waste treatment plant! I think there is also original research by the creator of the article, writing about their interpretation of impressionist photography, rather than going by what reliable sources actually say. I think it can probably be fixed, and it is an interesting subject for the encyclopedia. I will keep it on my watchlist. It's getting late here and my focus is getting fatigued. I'll also look for appropriate sources tomorrow or in the next day or two. Thanks again and happy editing! Netherzone (talk) 02:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I completely agree — we can't rely on AI-generated text, especially when it comes to sourcing. That’s exactly why I’m digging into the books directly. It just takes a bit of time to cross-check everything properly.
Thanks a lot for your patience and your watchful eye. Sleep well! I’ll keep working on it a bit tonight, and I’d be happy if you could review it again tomorrow when it’s fresh.
I found a better source for the recent exhibition — this time from the official website of the City of Honfleur. I wanted to check with you before re-adding it to the article.
== Recent exhibitions ==
In 2023, an exhibition titled Mémoires de l’impressionnisme was installed outdoors in Honfleur, along the Garden of Personalities. Presented from April 9 to December 31, it featured around forty photographs by Réhahn, depicting scenes of life in Vietnam through an aesthetic marked by light, reflections, and fleeting emotion. The exhibition was part of the celebrations for the 50th anniversary of diplomatic relations between France and Vietnam. It was inaugurated in the presence of the Vietnamese Ambassador to France and local officials.[1]
Let me know if you think this is appropriate. Thanks again for your time and help!
Last message because you must be sleeping already.
I found better sources for the recent exibition. I wont add before getting your approval.
== Recent exhibitions ==
In 2023, an exhibition titled Mémoires de l’impressionnisme was installed outdoors in Honfleur, along the Garden of Personalities. Presented from April 9 to December 31, it featured around forty photographs by Réhahn, depicting scenes of life in Vietnam through an aesthetic marked by light, reflections, and fleeting emotion. The exhibition was part of the celebrations for the 50th anniversary of diplomatic relations between France and Vietnam. It was inaugurated in the presence of the Vietnamese Ambassador to France and local officials.[2]
In 2025, the Musée de l'Orangerie in Paris hosted the exhibition Dans le flou. Une autre vision de l’art de 1945 à nos jours (Out of Focus: Another Vision of Art from 1945 to the Present Day), running from April 30 to August 18. The exhibition explored the aesthetic and conceptual role of blur in modern and contemporary art, featuring works by artists such as Gerhard Richter, Francis Bacon, Hiroshi Sugimoto, and Edward Steichen. It examined how the use of blur became a means of expressing the instability and uncertainty of the post-World War II era, challenging traditional notions of clarity and representation. The exhibition also drew connections to Claude Monet's Water Lilies, highlighting the influence of Impressionist techniques on later artistic practices.[3]
Good morning, @OctaveCoelio:, Thanks for reaching out. The article is on a broad topic/subject, and to give one artist, or even one specific exhibition so much weight is undue WP:UNDUE. I think, in particular the paragraph on Réhahn's work does not present the broad topic in a neutral way. It's too much emphasis on one artist's work when the genre of impressionistic photography itself has existed for over a century and crosses international and intercontinental borders. (It seems sort of promotional too.) All of that belongs on Réhahn's WP article not in a broad topic article. I'd strongly suggest sticking to the topic itself; the article should focus on art history, it does not need a "recent exhibitions" section.
What would make sense is a sentence towards the end of the "Pictorialist heritage and influence of Impressionism" section that says: "More recent examples of artists working in an impressionistic mode are Réhahn, Gerhard Richter, Francis Bacon, Hiroshi Sugimoto, and some of the works of Edward Steichen." Include those who have been influenced by the heritage of impressionism, and include sources that refer to their work(s) that way.
My advice is to stick to the history as represented in reliable sources like books, art magazines and academic journal articles (I have access to JSTOR if you don't so can help with that.) And to create a "Gallery" section where a handful of relevant artists can be chronologically represented with one work each. - Netherzone (talk) 16:16, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the detailed feedback. I completely understand the concern about giving too much weight to one artist, and I agree with your point—especially now that I slowly become more familiar with how balance and neutrality work here.
I also agree about the importance of including more women photographers. I’m still working through several books on the subject and haven’t reached that part yet, but it’s definitely something I want to add.
That said, I do think the Dans le flou exhibition in Paris is quite significant historically. It feels like a turning point in the renewed recognition of impressionist approaches in photography. Even if the paragraph on Réhahn is set aside or shortened, I would still suggest finding a way to mention the exhibition itself as part of the broader narrative—if you feel it fits.
I'm still learning and I find myself very excited to continue this article.
