User talk:PresN

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of pilosans – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for January 27, 2025. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of kerivoulines, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sea of Stars you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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		For keeping the new article announcements running. Thank you for your hard work! QuicoleJR (talk) 15:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Sea of Stars you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sea of Stars for comments about the article, and Talk:Sea of Stars/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of A412 -- A412 (talk) 00:43, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But my edit desc is: "first non exclusive was beautiful katamari. That's X360. That was... 10 years ago? 15? This game is for the people".

You being the editor that created that page doesn't give you a privilege to undo works of others, even if you don't like the edit. the edit is valid. The game was developed for PS2 for 2 games, and it says so in their entry, but saying the entire series is for it is plain wrong. please read WP:OWN. 85.250.17.30 (talk) 09:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on talk page, you don't need to start the same discussion in two places. --PresN 12:53, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Heyo, you may or may not remeber that we briefly talked about what to do with List of Crystal Dynamics video games some time back. While the main article is now a GA, the listicle remains in very poor shape. Since I currently do not (and likely won't soon) have the time for big rewriting projects, are you still interested in taking this one on? Regards, IceWelder [✉] 21:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@IceWelder: Probably not, to be honest. I made it more clear last year what games they had been a publisher for in the 90s, and I just replaced one odd ref, but I don't think I've ever played any of their games so I'm not that invested in the list. I'd be willing to swap it over from the current template structure to something more like List of Blizzard Entertainment games if you want, but I'm not interested at the moment in tracking down refs for exact release dates and collections/compilations releases which would be the next, lengthy step to bring it in line with that list. --PresN 01:41, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I figured this would be the case. Thanks anyway! Perhaps I'll slog through it eventually. If the article is irreperable, though, I will retain a redirect as a last-resort option. IceWelder [✉] 17:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PresN, I noticed that you work on many gaming-related articles, including Infinity Blade. I have created a draft about Donald Mustard, video game industry veteran and creative director behind the Infinity Blade trilogy. Since I work for AGBO, where Mustard is now a partner, I'm not publishing the article directly. Would you please review the draft in my userspace (User:SarahCaruso/Donald Mustard), editing as you see fit, and move it to mainspace? I'd appreciate it, thanks! SarahCaruso (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SarahCaruso: Hi, unfortunately I'm not comfortable moving the article to mainspace; the way it's written right now is like an advertisement for Mustard, with puffed up phrases like "led the game to its iconic status within pop culture". It manages simultaneously to not give details on what he actually did in the games he had a direct hand in, but also ascribe everything in Fortnite to him, and I can't trust the sources you used to back that up- you said "He also initiated the creation of live events in the game", which first of all is awful corporate-speak, but the source you used never says he did that, just that he was the CCO of Epic and that also Fortnite "became known for cultural crossovers". So, in order to feel comfortable moving it to mainspace, I'd have to rewrite half of it and check every source, and that's too much. Mustard is notable enough for an article, but I don't think this is the one. --PresN 13:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your feedback, PresN. I've noted your points and will rethink the approach to the draft and rewrite accordingly, to the best of my ability. I hope you'll be willing to take another look once I'm finished.

To relate to some of your comments, I ran into two challenges when creating the draft and wonder if you may have any guidance: First, much of the details of Mustard's specific roles in the games can only be found in RS in interviews, which I intentionally avoided as I know it's frowned upon to reference too many non-independent sources. Would you suggest including some and noting in the text that it's a personal account (e.g., "According to Mustard...")? And second, many of the articles about Mustard tend to take a hagiographic tone, so I tried to walk a fine line of avoiding excessive praise while keeping as close as possible to what's expressed in the sources. I realize that I need to work harder to avoid the puffed up tone even if the RS frames him that way.

Regarding the sentence in the draft about his creation of live events, I want to point out that the Axios reference does cover this ("Mustard also led work on building dramatic, live events in Fortnite that all players would witness at the same time"). I feel it's important to note this because, while I accept your point about "corporate-speak," I put a lot of effort into checking that all the content passes verification, and I want to make sure you and others here recognize that I'm editing in good faith.

I'd appreciate any input and will be back in touch once I've updated the draft. Thanks again. SarahCaruso (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SarahCaruso: Alright, I felt bad about it because he really should have an article and you did a very good job of one overall, and I appreciate that you tried to tone it down (and that articles about him are pretty hagiographic, as you say), so I did some editing on it and moved it to mainspace. What you proposed about sourcing his specific roles to interviews and attributing it to him in the text is perfectly fine; I've watchlisted the article so if you have any proposals just put them on the talk page and I'll add them in without you having to wait around forever. --PresN 02:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, PresN! I appreciate your time and continued guidance. I will post any future suggestions at the article's talk page. SarahCaruso (talk) 01:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of emballonurids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of nycterids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With help from KungFuman I managed to create an article for Ángel (The King of Fighters). Sadly, I am having problems with my monitor and the old one I am using can't let me upload nonfree images in Wikipedia for some reason. If possible, could you upload the infobox image for the character? This might be the best image for the character since it's a concept art made by the most famous SNK artist, Eisuke Ogura, and can easily be found in the wiki or an artbook. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 18:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Not clear on how a monitor could affect uploading non-free images? But done in any case. --PresN 19:56, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You see, two weeks ago my monitor was nearly burning and I sent it to repair. When I found the older monitor, I found that for some reason Wikipedia doesn't allow me to upload images for some reason so I also asked in Discord a user to upload a picture of Ryu Hayabusa as I was trying to expand on his notability. Tintor2 (talk) 20:58, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.

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The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.

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Hi! :) Found this [1]

Not sure where to put this though. Timur9008 (talk) 11:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Timur9008: Found a spot, thanks! --PresN 12:40, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:FLR link has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Animal Well you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PresN, would you mind taking a look at another draft I created, for screenwriter and producer Angela Russo-Otstot (User:SarahCaruso/Angela Russo-Otstot)? While I realize that your primary interest is video games, I appreciated your perspective in our discussion about Donald Mustard and thought it would be a good idea to run this draft by you as well. Thank you! SarahCaruso (talk) 19:26, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SarahCaruso: Sure, why not. Made some tweaks and moved to Angela Russo-Otstot. --PresN 01:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a Good Article, but I do not see it in Wikipedia:Good articles/all. Am I missing something? I would be happy to add it to that list, if you can't or don't want to add it yourself. Do you think it would be better under Chess or under Engineering technology (or Software, or some other category)? Bruce leverett (talk) 01:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruce leverett: It's in Wikipedia:Good articles/all2. --PresN 01:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, don't know how I missed that. Bruce leverett (talk) 02:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PresN. I noticed your recent contributions, especially your featured list articles. I invite you to help me on my quest to improve the coverage of Wii U-related articles. Currently, i have Wii U GamePad nominated for GA, but could you help get List of Wii U games for featured list? Thanks. TzarN64 (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TzarN64: I did some accessibility fixes on the table since I'm well-versed in them, but I'm not going to work on the list beyond that. It's going to be a massive amount of work to find sources for the release dates for ~800 games in 4 regions, and I'm not particularly interested in the Wii U. --PresN 02:05, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, nonetheless. Please give me your thoughts on the article and how it can be improved. Thanks. TzarN64 (talk) 02:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Animal Well you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article needs changes or clarifications to meet the good article criteria. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Animal Well and Talk:Animal Well/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 00:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Animal Well you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Animal Well for comments about the article, and Talk:Animal Well/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Tarlby -- Tarlby (talk) 01:23, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of emballonurids – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for April 21. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 02:55, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Sign up for The Core Contest, a competition running from 15 April to 31 May to improve vital articles.

Hello, I noticed that you changed a part of {{Election box candidate no party no change}} to include a missing rowscope. I'm not sure if this is what is causing a massive change in the template, but I've noticed that the election box now doesn't match with other types of election boxes, as it now has a dark grey and bolded part instead of having a lighter grey and non-bolded part with the rest of it. Compare these two:

I'm not sure if this was the intended result, but I personally don't think it should be different for these two. Especially since the "winning candidate" isn't differentiated anymore. reppop^talk 20:49, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reppop: Sorry about that, I don't think I realized how many variations of election boxes there were last night. I've added a bit more to ensure there's no visual change; I don't think that's ideal but it's way better than a mishmash of visual styles. --PresN 22:13, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It being centered is still bothering me since it still visually doesn't match with the other election box, I think you should also fix that to be flush left. reppop^talk 22:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reppop: Done. Really obnoxious that wikimedia applies extra styles to row headers, and also different ones depending on if it's the "first" cell in the row. --PresN 23:02, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at your other changes for the other election box templates? I noticed on this page that {{Election box candidate with party link no change}} is now centered, and doesn't match with the other templates above. reppop^talk 18:24, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reppop: Fixed- the template pages had them as left-aligned, but the article didn't. Now forced left. --PresN 19:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of phyllostomids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I was editing Laguna's draft here but I was wondering what article does this site have the article from Flaregamer has it in order to find the original reliable sources to see if we can I create and then nominate it due to the GA topic need. If possible, could you lend me a hand with Laguna? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: I'm not clear on what you're asking here. I'm also not sure that FFOnline or FlareGamer are RSs. I'm not available to work on Laguna's article, sorry. --PresN 16:07, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I understand Tintor2 (talk) 16:39, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of natalids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that Nebula Award for Best Game Writing – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for May 5. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 00:33, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey PresN. I hope whatever you're doing is going great. Perhaps this message will be a little corny, but with your experience with FA indie games, I think it'd be great to send this to you.

For over a year now, by the time I had only garnered a couple hundred edits, I've been working on the article Rain World, an indie game very special to me, as it's now my favorite video game of all time. I've never played Outer Wilds and don't know much about it, but I can tell from the passionate introductory paragraph in your FAC for the game, it is likely I feel very similar feelings to Rain World.

Though I've been making gradual edits on the page for a while, around January 2025, I had read your FAC for Outer Wilds, then Super Meat Boy, Tunic, and Doom 1993. I think your work on those articles had inspired me, because I started reading up on FA articles and essays about the criteria. I hadn't edited Rain World in a while at that point, but I started having some ambitions. I have been reworking the article for over a month now. I've done my best to find the most sourcing I can and making great prose. I don't want to say the article is ready for FAC in case I manage to jinx myself (especially considering I have never nominated even a GA before), yet I have already asked a few other editors to look over it, and they haven't brought many objections so far.

Now, I'm starting to have hopes that this will appear on the main page one day as my first high-quality work on an article. I've opened up a peer review here for further comments and it has yet to receive feedback. Considering the absolutely baffling amounts of FA's and FAL's you've written, I think your advice would help me out a lot. Of course, if you don't want you, you don't have to review this.

Thanks for reading. Good luck with your future content. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 05:03, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tarlby: Thanks for the compliments! I'm glad my work inspired yours in some part. I'll take a look at the article/PR. --PresN 16:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I've seen your pr review and will respond later. Thank you! Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,233 round points from 24 good articles, 28 Did you know articles, and one In the news nomination, mainly about athletes and politicians
• Thebiguglyalien (submissions) with 1,127 round points, almost entirely from two high-multiplier featured articles on Black Widow (Natasha Romanova) and Grace Coolidge, in addition to two GAs and two reviews
• History6042 (submissions) with 1,088 round points from four featured lists about Michelin-starred restaurants, nine good articles and a good topic mostly on Olympic-related subjects, seven ITN articles, and dozens of reviews
• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,085 round points from three FAs, one GA, and four DYKs on military history, as well as 18 reviews
• Arconning (submissions) with 887 round points, mostly from four FLs, six GAs, and seven DYKs on Olympic topics, along with more than two dozen reviews

In addition, we would like to recognize Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.

The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Evening... I'm sorry to bother you. I noticed that you have promoted some articles to FL status tonight. Any chance World Figure Skating Championships will be among them? I just garnered what I believe to be a third support this morning. Thank you so much for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Still needs a source review, and you said you were going to get to the points that Toadspike raised, so it'll probably get promoted in the next pass through. --PresN 03:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response. I address Toadspike's points. I have seen where other articles need a source review; what is involved in that? Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:34, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Someone goes through and checks that the sources are reliable, that the citations are formatted correctly, and spotchecks a few to make sure that they back up what the list is citing them for. --PresN 11:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds simple enough. I will try to help out with some of those this evening after work. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:28, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2025).

Administrator changes

Rusalkii

NaomiAmethyst (overlooked last month)

• Master Jay
• Orderinchaos
• Roger Davies
• Tinucherian

Interface administrator changes

Galobtter

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, administrator elections were permanently authorized on a five-month schedule. The next election will be scheduled soon; see Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections for more information. This is an alternate process to the RfA process and does not replace the latter.
• An RfC was closed with consensus to allow editors to opt-out of seeing "sticky decorative elements". Such elements should now be wrapped in {{sticky decoration wrapper}}. Editors who wish to opt out can follow the instructions at WP:STICKYDECO.
• An RfC has resulted in a broad prohibition on the use of AI-generated images in articles. A few common-sense exceptions are recognized.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2025 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia, and articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to Outer Wilds. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, please use your sandbox instead, where you are given a certain degree of freedom in what you write. Nice Easter egg. MimirIsSmart (talk) 09:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You may not realize this, having only been here for a year, but it is considered pretty rude to slap template messages on established editors. --PresN 11:42, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for this, but I intended this to be humorous and something to be laugh about. MimirIsSmart (talk) 11:55, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I've been trying to tone down nonfree images of some articles and noticed this free image of Kyo Kusanagi (the character's design has changed several times since his introduction) used to promote a game here. I want to extract Shinkiro's illustration (heavily discussed in promotion) in a similar example to what people did with Hideki Kamiya's free image but I have no idea how I can do it or if I am capable of to begin with. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Eh, that's a free image only because the cover of the game isn't the central subject of the photo (though that's pretty subjective). Cropping it to just the cover removes that, and you just have an angled photo of a non-free image. --PresN 19:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Also, there is a doubt I had about Kyo's article. Do you think some parts from reception are worth removing? I tried removing reviews but I can't tell if some sources are kinda useless or pointless. The fact that the article uses 191 references bugs me similar to when I revised Dante from Devil May Cry with another user. Cheers. Tintor2 (talk) 21:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Ah, I think you misunderstood- there's no way that crop can be a free-use photo on commons. Taking a photograph specifically of a copyrighted artwork doesn't transform it into a non-copyrighted thing.

As to the reception, I don't have an opinion. It's not too long so it wouldn't be my priority to change. I'm baffled as to how that article has 191 references as well- somehow every references is used only once or twice? Like, every single fact is cited to a different source. That feels like bad editing- if there's a good source that covers a bunch of stuff, why would you limit it to one sentence and then base the rest on tweets and weaker sources? I'm more concerned that there's things cited to non-RSs that could have been cited to an RS already used in the article. --PresN 22:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I removed the image and tried toning down the weakest sources. The only tweet I left involved a related artist who often worked for the series. It's one of the first articles I edited so I'm trying to polish it especially due to recent changes about notability guidelines. Cheers Tintor2 (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Followed your advice and toned down references to 180 by using some third party sources in appearances and combining two articles. Tintor2 (talk) 03:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of chiropterans, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of mormoopids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Hey man im josh (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Evening... I'm sorry to bother you. I noticed that you have promoted some articles to FL status this afternoon. Any chance British Figure Skating Championships will be among them? It has garnered three supports, including the source review, and it has been over a month. Thank you for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:43, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: Sure, did a couple more, including your list. --PresN 17:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw; thank you so much, as always, for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be so kind to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/File mover? Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 16:54, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: Sure, why not. Don't know what took you to me specifically, but I don't see any problems. --PresN 17:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I used https://apersonbot.toolforge.org/recently-active/?admins Polygnotus (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: Ah, neat, that makes sense, and that's a handy tool. Thanks! --PresN 17:32, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2025).

Administrator changes

• DDima
• Gimmetrow
• Huon
• Johan Elisson
• Spangineer
• The Land

Interface administrator changes

0xDeadbeef

CheckUser changes

L235

Oversight changes

L235

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open to determine whether the English Wikipedia community should adopt a position on AI development by the WMF and its affiliates.

Technical news

• A new feature called Multiblocks will be deployed on English Wikipedia on the week of June 2. See the relevant announcement on the administrators' noticeboard.
• History merges performed using the mergehistory special page are now logged at both the source and destination, rather than just the source as previously, after this RFC and the resolution of T118132.

Arbitration

• An arbitration case named Indian military history has been opened. Evidence submissions for this case close on 8 June.

Miscellaneous

• Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 17 June 2025. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!
• An Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in June 2025, with over 1,600 drafts awaiting review from the past two months. In addition to AfC participants, all administrators and new page patrollers can help review using the Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
• The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in June 2025 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

Hey PresN! I saw the bot sent me the usual promotion talkpage message but didn't message Shwabb yet so wanted to reach out in case it was a technical mistake. I remember getting my first FL promotion message was encouraging and think Shwabb definitely more than deserves the credit for this FL. Many thanks in advance about it and for the promotion! (also, an aside but I promise my next FLN won't take as long) ;) Dan the Animator 00:55, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dantheanimator Thanks, don't know why the bot skipped them but glad to fix the problem. --PresN 13:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I recently created The King of Fighters: Kyo (1998 video game) but possibly due to the lack of Western release only 12 references. By any chance, do you know if there are old Famitsu reviews or other magazines to expand more the reception section? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 01:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tintor2: Sorry for the delay, I was out of town. I do not know of any. --PresN 00:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of kerivoulines – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for July 18. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 21:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

• BeanieFan11 (submissions) with 1,314 round points, mostly from articles about athletes and politicians, including 20 good articles and 48 did you know articles
• Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,197 round points, mostly from military history articles, including 9 featured topic articles, two featured articles, and four good articles
• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 1,055 round points, mostly from television station articles, including 27 good articles and 9 good topic articles

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		The Invisible Barnstar
		Thank you so much for fixing the references on BG3. — ImaginesTigers (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very, very sorry for effectively wasting a bunch of your time. Without you doing that work, it would have taken me much longer to move them back off Sfn. Thank you again — ImaginesTigers (talk) 16:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Lost in Play you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lost in Play for comments about the article, and Talk:Lost in Play/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of ImaginesTigers -- ImaginesTigers (talk) 09:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit at List of chiropterans really caught my eye. I think a similar sentence should probably be on every list of species. I'm less active on Wikipedia than I once was, but at User:SchreiberBike/sandbox#Inclusion criteria for List of organisms of Place I've got a list of things I was working on along those lines. If you've got other ideas or would like help implementing them, I'd love to work with you. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SchreiberBike: I agree- I added it to there (and every mammal list I've done) because a reviewer suggested it at the FLC for List of glirids, as they didn't understand how the parentheses worked, but I also saw someone else ask for the same thing at their List of insect orders nomination, so I think most readers have no idea why some authorities get parentheses and others don't. --PresN 22:34, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of glirids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2025).

Administrator changes

NuclearWarfare

Interface administrator changes

L235

Guideline and policy news

• Following a talk page discussion, speedy deletion criterion G13 has been amended to remove "Userspace with no content except the article wizard placeholder text."
• WP:Manual of Style/Superscripts and subscripts was upgraded to a guideline following a RfC discussion.

Miscellaneous

• The 2025 Developing Countries WikiContest will run from 1 July to 30 September. Sign up now!
• Administrator elections will take place this month. Administrator elections are an alternative to RFA that is a gentler process for candidates due to secret voting and multiple people running together. The call for candidates is July 9–15, the discussion phase is July 18–22, and the voting phase is July 23–29. Get ready to submit your candidacy, or (with their consent) to nominate a talented candidate!

VVVVVV has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 18:03, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of geomyids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 04:58, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of sciurids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Plant species table has been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Plant species table/row has been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]