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Hi Rod, thanks very much for making a start on the inclusion of this landmark within the Bridgwater article. I may well have a photo (will have to check at home), although the building is currently strapped up with webbing to slow its deterioration. I'm surprised it's so difficult to retrieve information on this building from the Internet. Careful With That Axe (talk) 07:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod.

You appear to be the major contributor to this article, so in case you don't see it on the Bristol project page I'm just making sure you're aware of the GA Sweeps reassessment I started here. --Malleus Fatuorum 12:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I have added my views, which I suspect are in line with yours, to the discussion. Saga City (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, Have you just dug me out of a hole I think I unwittingly created. I have been a user for some time but today signed in to make my first contribution about the phrase "drawing a line in the sand" Having done that I looked at Burtle because I have just spent a year refurbishing the village hall as my present to the village and wondered if the reference cotained a link to the village website because it is quite interesting. www.burtlevillage.co.uk. I noticed some instant factual errors and tried to change them but in doing so I seemed to totally mess up the page layout, but have you just mended it for me in which case thanks. Robin Robinhowell (talk) 11:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, Thank you very much for the fix. I had a quick look at the Somerset site and on first glance I don't think I would be much help, but I will have a better look later. Best Regards RobinRobinhowell (talk) 15:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, I hope all is well. I navigated through to a discussion at User_talk:Uksignpix, and wondered, perhaps File:Chewstoke.gif could/should be redrawn as an SVG image by someone at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Image workshop‎? I got File:Shaw and Crompton Emblem.svg redrawn there, and there are some very talented graphicists who can work magic on coats of arms (like File:Merseyside CoA.svg and File:Royal Badge of Wales new.svg). As it's an FA, I thought it might be worth asking. --Jza84 |  Talk  17:24, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, you may notice from your watchlist that I fixed a couple of minor ref issues on this excellent list (one good turn etc). My only prose comment would be that, at six paragraphs, the lead is longer than would usually be expected. Can it be trimmed, or a couple of the shorter paragraphs combined? Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 20:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Rod I've never heard of a local oral tradition in Montacute or Ham Hill of Charles II passing through the village, and to be honest I'd never even heard of the "Monarch's Way" until you mentioned it. I see the wiki entry mentions Montacute, but I really doubt the authenticity of that. Assuming he did pass close by, he would have followed the London-Exeter coach road which bypassed to the south of Montacute village running from Yeovil-Odcombe-Batemore Barn-Ham Hill-Stoke sub Hamdon along another roman road. If he did enter the village he would have left via Hollow Lane, another Roman holloway leading to Ham Hill from Townsend and still in use as a road. I'm dubious about the whole thing though as reading the article "Escape of Charles II" I find repeat references to "Colonel Phillips of Montacute ". The family name was Phelips, not Phillips which makes me wonder if there is a misidentification When I go back I'll check if any long distance paths go through near the village, but the only one I know of is the Leland Trail, which reaches Ham Hill

Regarding Mary, it would have been Mary I, Bloody Mary, but the Somerset CC book does not give a date Olddemdike (talk) 00:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Second thoughts on the path, as the online OS maps clearly show a long distance path through the village, passing in front of the gatehouse, so looks like you are right. The path appears to come across Montacute Park down the old Roman Road from Ilchester, though the village, past the gatehouse and over the top of St Michaels Hill (in so doing taking a detour from the old track). I still feel that if he did pass through the village it would have been unlikely to be that route, but I guess we'll never knowOlddemdike (talk) 00:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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BorgQueen (talk) 15:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Can you please remove the reference to the UN? It is incorrect. The mandation is to do with the IMO nothing to do with the UN. I removed the AVCS bit as it's mentioned in the main body of the article. Perhaps you could like to join the two together? If I delete anything you simply put it back so it's better I ask you to delete yourself. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Commswatch (talk • contribs) 20:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

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Dravecky (talk) 11:56, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

re: You need to put http:// in the ref to make it work -- Thanks, done now - its always the simple things :) --Paraphrased (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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Wizardman 06:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello Rodw. Me and SilkTork are having a chat regarding the merge or not of the listed buildings on King Street in Bristol. Since your knowledge of Bristol is far greater than mine, to use an euphemism, and you may be interested in the discussion, in the case you feel like dropping by the chat is at SilkTork's Talk Page. Cheers, Aldux (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the photo. Date of 1741 is correct. See reply at WT:MILLS. Mjroots (talk) 19:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

BTW, the Windmill World website is a free access site. You don't need to register or anything. It's the Mills Archive site (linked from WW) which gives that trouble. Mjroots (talk) 19:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, it does seem to be a subject on which passions are aroused for no apparent reason! It toook me some time to figure out the difference between the various possibilities and decide on a preference, but after a while it becomes natural. It would be nice to have em- and en-dashes on the keyboard though. Incidentally, by bizarre coincidence, I'm paying my first ever visit to South Somerset next month (not for Wikipedia-related reasons though!). Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

With a bit of luck I'll come across one or two – especially if any are near Templecombe (whose own church is II*, I note from the article...). As ever, the camera will be in my pocket just in case! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

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BorgQueen (talk) 00:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Does your trip involve time-travel? :) Better correct the start date on your holiday banner! Have a good time, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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Royalbroil 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Royalbroil 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Rod, as you've contributed to a lot of FLs on listed buildings your comments on my suggestion here. Thanks, Nev1 (talk) 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I`m still on a steep learning curve here (especially Wiki rules and guideleines), and thank you for the excellent help with the article I originally posted. Although I have done some writing in the past I have not been involved with Encyclopedias before. I will leave you to "work your magic", and then consider your kind offer of joining the project you mentioned. Regards, Bill Francis E Williams (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, You might as well replace the article with what you have created .. because if you don`t somebody else will at some time. At leaset it will exist in some eventual form. What is important is that something remains to mark it`s passing in the histroy of Bath, and it may give to the reader an understanding of the contribution that many of it`s pupils made to the Technological and Scientific world in which we live today. Despite the lack of facilities, it offered what a lot of modern schools do not, motivation for young people to succeed with limited resources (Common just after WW2). I was going to include notable Alumni, but I fear that they along with the other old boys will have no relevance to the article. Like all history, or any record of it, it is created by living people, and cannot not just exist just as a collection of verifiable oices of paper as required by reference work. A classic case is the publication of The Last Tommy, (Harry Patch R.I.P., a local Combe Down lad) original research is contained in the form of his own experiences. How long will it be before this is cited as verifiable information from the past? I have no way of contacting Jefferies Malcolm (born 1936), his research which much of own history records of the School are based on, inspired by his original published article held at Somerset Records office in Taunton. This article was was paased on to our group in 2003. We have tried to expand upon it, are searching for the references that he used in his original article for inclusion into our own material submitted to Wiki. (additional information)The reference (2) that applies to 1 Stuart Place Bath (Govenors House) is not the Goal referred to in our article. The Goal is behind it, we have the (original own work) of it`s current structure (which reflects it`s original), whether it`s relevant to the article as a refernce is what I referred to earlier, it`s not a deliberate attempt to rewrite history, but it`s use as a visual reference will be misleading for researchers. The citations you highlight for further verifification may well soon be uncovered by us from the historical records of Kellys directory for Somerset etc. So, thank you once again for your sterling work, and as to the matter of contributing to your project about Somerset I will decline the offer until I have gained a lot more experience about Wikipedia and it`s structure. Bill. Francis E Williams (talk) 19:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, Yet another area of Wiki I had not considered to be critical, I was not aware that "my talk" was a permanent record for other users to browse. I have no intention of editing anyone elses user page, only my own contributions to it. I just assumed incorrectly, that "My Talk" was a personal storage place for communications, and for me to be able to keep the relevant condensed information sent to me to aid my understanding of Wiki. If it possible for me to re-edit it to it`s original state I will do this immediately, It would appear that I have made the right decision for the moment to make no further contributions until my knowledge of Wikipedia has improved somewhat. My endeavours and method of use appear to be counter productive and time consuming for others such as yourself to have to deal with. Regards, Bill Francis E Williams (talk) 21:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I have reinstated my user page to comply with Wiki policy, I can add no further comment to the revised article. I will, as time allows, upload the relevant refernces and citations that are required. Also, as there may well be arevision of your work at some time in the future I will upload the neccessary graphic to allow further amendments to take place. Best of luck with your Somerset project. Regards, Bill. Francis E Williams (talk) 10:25, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I have nominated Chew Valley Recreational Trail Association, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chew Valley Recreational Trail Association. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. — Rod ^talk 18:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, wonder if you could take a look in my sandbox (see User:Francis E Williams/Sandbox) at some graphics I`ve added to the page. I have used slightly more space than originally intended for the photo of the building, as you may see it`s fairly wide. (addition) could also be used for your article on Hayesfield School, same site). But doing this has kept the text layout fairly tidy. I have another badge to finish yet. I`ve included names for the headmaster & deputy. Houses & colours etc. Perhaps you would advise before I upload into article. Thanks.Francis E Williams (talk) 21:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi rod, o.k. will amend image size - (good tip px size), yes names were as at close of school.Francis E Williams (talk) 22:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, wonder if you could take a look in my sandbox (see User:Francis E Williams/Sandbox) I have added citations etc. I cannot (as yet) gain access to any records concerning the school for the other citations you have noted on your major edit. Any suggestions please. (update 18:45) I have located all the references required for all thew items mentioned in the article and added to sandbox. Francis E Williams (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Rod, I have embedded the refernces into article already, but was unaware of the template, thanks for sending it.Francis E Williams (talk) 20:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I know you`re very busy, but I don`t quite know where to post this suggestion (maybe someone does, sensibly of course !). I have been adding my own REMs to my User:Francis E Williams/Sandbox and in doing so I noticed that one of the Wiki forums commented "how do we obtain a more diversified user base?". How about an article that can be linked to new users to replace the current links to "your first article" etc. My own experience as a new user was one of "information overload". Having persisted, (a goal to achieve, i.e. post my old school history), with the system over the last 10 days has brought me to this conclusion:- If it can be made simpler for inexperienced users to "get on the publishing ladder", then maybe the requirement for a "broader user base" could be met by the preparation of such an article. I don`t suggest that this "dumbed down" version of introduction would be suitable for the more "academic" user, but it could be included as a "skip over article" for them. Have a quick look (if you have time) or point me in the right direction if you can. Thanks Francis E Williams (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, well REM is short for reminder as used in computer programming. Did quite a bit in the mid 80`s. Means something to me ( and programmers) but not grapsed easily by the average user of a computer. So, my point exactly, points of reference etc. Thanks for the short cut about a suitable location for the suggestion. Yes, old but still able to learn on here (despite suffering from Macular Degeneration (pixel loss in both eyes)) that makes it so slow and time consuming sometimes to see both what is on the screen and where my characters are on the keyboard. I`m currently looking for the automated tools you mentioned in your last post to me. Special pages perhaps? (aka Bill )Francis E Williams (talk) 19:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I did see the advanced edit options at registration but preferred my default edit screen, as the new one (advanced) gave me loads of icons to play with (as a side bar I think), but removed my initial (early) reqirement tools in doing so. There you go, another "senior moment". Did I mention that I don`t touch type either?.(aka Bill )Francis E Williams (talk) 19:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rodw, thanks so much for catching my error with the reference. I'm usually more careful especially with citations. I am interested in historic buildings, especially in the UK, as there has been such an effort there to preserve and restore them. I'll look more closely at the article you referred me to and see if I think I can make worthwhile contributions. I don't live in the area but am very interested - I'm also interested in Kent buildings and history. BTW, I am VERY impressed with your work accomplishments on Wiki. All the best, Agadant (talk) 16:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello Rod, I have created a talk page for an article on "Transport in Somerset",[1] use the link to view it. It might help with the project. Regards, Francis E Williams (talk) 00:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, the template was an accident of creation, I used {{Transport}} by mistake in category and up popped this template. I modified it as an experiment, and it just grabbed the code for the content box and the two combined. I just liked the effect and left it. It cannot be hidden (as most content templates can, a problem in itself) but I thought it was handy for the younger reader to have accesss to other content in one place. Well, I didn`t want to go live with the page, as it was only a suggestion and for something to do. I learnt that much at least from my experience a few weeks ago with the creation of my first acticle. Regards. 09:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I understand where you are coming from, but articles like "Transport in Manchester" emphasise more the current modern system than the historical base requirement, perhaps an equal measure of both?. It is simple to link into, and use extracts from the work already done by others. "Copy and paste" can be a very rapid method to use. I just thought to get the ball rolling my suggestion might be a basis for others to get involved with their own area of expertise, and in doing so would add to the kind of effort that will be required to make the article stand out from the rest. We seem to back to the WK:MOS issue I suppose. Just noticed your last message, article on page. Regards, Francis E Williams (talk) 10:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe the current article can be renamed to Historic transport in Somerset or something along those lines, if you want I could then create Articles similar to Transport in Bristol, mainly focusing on current Transport, it would be a good idea as Bristol International Airport for example comes under both Bristol and Somerset. Tell me what you think. Mark999 13:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, yes Geography not a brilliant subject at school. I Will have to check up on the current area enclosed by somerset (and its sub districts) as a county. I just assumed being just along the coast from Porlock and all that. It would have been a super inclusion for its novelty value at least, ah well, good job it`s only hyper space and not paper eh?. Regards. (Update)21:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC) a slip of the pen on the boundary map (go due north of the west boundary) would just put lynton in somerset.Francis E Williams (talk) 14:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, yes I know box tunnel is in wiltshire but I included the link and the whole extract about brunels work in somerset / wiltshire/ dorset to see if there is anything else in the article we can use, I had to finish editing abruptly, and have only just come back online. Regards, Bill Francis E Williams (talk) 20:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't know this, I am a new member here. Next time, I will avoid linking such words.--WokaHellas (talk) 18:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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— Jake Wartenberg 23:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I've moved a few commas around in the first half of the lead, but I think that the second half, beginning "Bath Abbey was a Norman church built on earlier foundations ..." seems just to be tagged on at the end. Is that the earliest of the listed buildings? If so that's got to be the hook. Right now from that point on the lead looks like a random selection of buildings with no coherent narrative tying everything together. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if you've noticed, but alt text is now part of the FL criteria ("images... with succinct captions and alternative (alt) text if necessary"). It can be added by adding "|alt=Description of the image" to the image code. I don't think there's any alt text in the BANES list, but if this is intentional you'll need to explain to reviewers why you don't think it's necessary. Forget I spoke, I pressed the wrong edit button and was searching for alt text in the lead (I didn't realise the images were at the bottom of the article). Nev1 (talk) 13:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 23:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Mifter (talk) 23:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod

I know the Somerset CCC article needs referencing, but the websites you've added as references are particularly poor and in many cases carry inaccurate information (SportsPundit is especially horrid). I'll try to put some better citations in over the coming weekend, but am minded to remove the ones you've done because they really aren't the kind of sites we should be referencing. Johnlp (talk) 21:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I think Harrias (talk · contribs) is a Somerset fan, it might be worth asking if he's able to help. Nev1 (talk) 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments - I've been working my way through Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset/Cleanup listing where it appears because of the refimprove tag. I'm not a cricket fan so have limited sources. If you have better ones to improve the article that would be great— Rod ^talk 07:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm on holiday at the moment, but when I get back next week I'll have a look through and try and get some of the references up to a half decent standard. Harrias (talk) 11:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide evidence that there are editors willing to make a concerted effort to add alternative text to images which lack them, and that they would find this categorization to be helpful for the purpose? The task will be denied if the community believes that half a million articles will be edited without substantial benefits. Erik9 (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Buildings and architecture of Bath at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Johnbod (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• Excellent article, but I could not see "the only whole city in England to be a World Heritage Site" in it. The hook fact must be stated and referenced. Given the length, you should say where it is. Johnbod (talk) 14:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain, but I've raised another issue at T:TDYK about your fine work... Bencherlite^Talk 12:52, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

See here. Cheeers, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You are off to a great start on this! I say go for it! you might also consult with Amandatalk who suggested the restructuring. Who knows -- maybe she could be tempted to dig into some Somerset medieval architecture if there are other bits that need working on! cheers and best, Celia/Celia Kozlowski (talk) 16:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, that was quick! For some reason, I perceived a break in continuity. No problem. Folks at 137 (talk) 07:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I replied to you here. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

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{{User0|LargoLarry 04:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you think the 'current article' tag should go to the top of the Samoa article page, for now, so people can go directly to the correct link samoa tsunami when they open the page - its obviously the information people are seeking with the peak in hit rate on the page?Teine Savaii (talk) 09:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll try moving that tag to the top of Samoa page then. I never done it before but i'll try. Fanx Teine Savaii (talk) 10:04, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

(very belated) thanks for the welcome to Wikipedia! Dwellings (talk) 13:35, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Any help needed on wiki projects? sorry I haven't helped a lot recently. Been busy! and started a new project about climate. Mark999 20:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey there. Do you mind if the Wells and Mendip Museum DYK you nominated ends up in the list of DYKs being saved for Halloween, or would you rather it run sooner? Geraldk (talk) 21:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I came across a link at SEA for "Sea, Somerset, a small village in South Somerset, England". It is also listed at List_of_United_Kingdom_locations:_Sb-Sf#Sea and I found it, hardly a village, on OS get-a-map at ST 348 130. I have no idea whether it is worthy an article or maybe just a redirect to the parish it is in? Can I leave it in your capable hands?--Derek Andrews (talk) 13:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod. I've started a GA review of Buildings and architecture of Bath. I grabbed it because the article looked great, and it's a topic that interests me. However when reading through I picked up a series of niggles which started to accumulate. Have a look at my comments and let me know what you think. I see you're an experienced and energetic article writer so you may feel the issues are quick and easy to deal with. However, my feeling at the moment is that the article probably needs a bit more development. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 19:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind my replying to your request here, rather than on the review page. My thoughts are rather random, and I hope some of them will be of use to you, but I'm not keen to get involved any controversies with those experienced and knowledgeable editors "out there". I must first confess a particular interest in the subject as my parents met and were married in Bath (Walcot Church), and just after the war I used to spend a month or so of the summer holidays there with my mother, visiting my grandmother who lived there; many strong memories, especially of the gaps left in terraces by the bombing. You have taken on a massive challenge in tackling this article, which IMO is a very important addition to WP. So on to some comments.

My first impressions were rather like those of the reviewer - this looks excellent; but on closer inspection does perhaps need some attention. Some of my comments are general, some are more specific, even pedantic, and some may be straying into the FA rather than GA territory. The article is long and detailed, and I wonder if all the material is needed. From the title I expected information about the existing buildings and architecture. There is quite a lot of (excellent) material on history but some of it is about buildings that no longer exist; is this relevant, or a distraction? I think this led to the reviewer's comment on the Roman material. Do you need to mention the archaeology; is it relevant? Perhaps after a brief introduction, you could say that the only remaining Roman material is in the baths, and describe that. As there is nothing remaining of the Post-Roman and Saxon period, why not just say so? How about combining the first two sections and describing just what IS there, with a minimum of historical information to give some context?

The Georgian section is long, and necessarily so. But could it be broken up into sub-sections? Not sure how you could do that, but it would give some pause for breath for the reader. I have no issue with the images; IMO they nicely break up the text. The panorama is spectacular. I don't suppose there is a free-use aerial image of the Circus and Royal Crescent area (or an old engraving as it were from above) to give some idea of the lay-out of the area.

I recommend that wherever possible you get rid of short (1–3 sentence) paragraphs; I think this is the preferred style, and it certainly looks better. With nearly 150 references you might think I would be happy with the number of citations. But there are a number of statements without citations. Personally my policy is "if you can't cite it, don't say it"; and this means certainly a citation at the end of every paragraph.

Also in respect to references, you include books, but not the pages containing the information to which you refer; this can be a major problem (the book says it, but how can I verify it?). Could I suggest that you place all the books in a separate Bibliography subsection of References? Then in the text give a reference which includes the page number - I use the {{Harvnb|Name|Year|p=.}} template which seems to work well. You can see how it works in, say, the Chester Cathedral article.

A minor comment - do we NEED to know that Walter Scott lived there? Lots of notable people lived in Bath at one time or another; you can't include them all - even the major ones. And is that relevant to the architecture? Jane Austen is an exception in the context used (but needs a citation).

I hope some of this is helpful and not too much of a deterrent to your improving an already good article. If you want to copy any of this to the review page, please do so. Best wishes and good luck with your development of the article. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:43, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you know that I have added some old (1864) images to Commons from a book in my possession. Most of them are scattered throughout the Bath, Somerset category, and there is one in the Bath Abbey category. You should be able to spot them - they are all B&W engravings. Please feel free to use any of them in your current quest for GA or for any other purpose. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, they're giving you a hard time - it's GA, not FA! At least you now have many more s. Good luck towards what must be a success. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

The London atrial is now undergoing a large amount of changes by me and User:MRSC to have it be FA soon. Please help if you can! Likelife (talk) 11:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

On October 31, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wells and Mendip Museum, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Halloween has arrived for DYK. Thanks! Victuallers (talk) 01:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, there is currently a proposal to raise the percentage of articles featured topics need to have featured to 50%, from 1 September 2010, and as someone with a topic with less than 50% of articles featured, this change if passed will directly affect you. Any input on your part to the discussion, and opinions both for and against the proposal, would be most welcome - rst20xx (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully you just saw (and understand) that I deleted nearly all the text at Farrington Gurney F.C. as it was a direct copy/past copyvio from the club's history page. So no it is just a stub. Nice to see keen authors though and perhaps we should encourage them to put that to good use and expand the article more. --Simple Bob (talk) 22:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi rod, I find everything on Wikipedia very confusing! Can u tell me how to email a permission to sort this problem out? Also if I sort the problem out will all my work re appear or will I have to do it all again? Nradnedge (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I have emailed Wikipedia so hopefully they will now give me the relevent licence for my work. I went to the FGFC talk page but there is no facility for me to leave a messege on there... Not sure if it's me being daft but could you tell me how to add a messege? Cheers Nradnedge (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, i have now emailed wikipedia with all the licence info and stuff that you told me to. And i think i will use the 'project football' template... if i do use the template and re-do my page will i get all these licence/copyright problems again? Nradnedge (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, im sorry but i dont understand anythin that you said the the last post... im getting very confused now and im really regretting trying to put a page on here. Could you please explain what you mean or just sort it out for me? i really dont know why anyone would have a problem with my football team as we are a tiny village team that no-one has ever heard of! As for a history of the club playing at a senior level, we have never played at a senior level so there is no history to report. if you look into the football standard levels we play in 'junior standard' which is the one below 'senior' Please sort all the problems out... somethine that should be straight forward is turning into a nightmare :( Nradnedge (talk) 16:26, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

The whole point of putting a page on here is so that more people will find out about our team... since i took over the club i have been working hard to get the name 'out there'. We have a healthy fanbase of a few hundred people and i want to promote the club. i've searhed on here and there is football team of the same standard as ours on here so i feel we should be able to have a page. The only way things get better is if people find out about them... wikipedia is a where people find out things so i want my club to be on here. Please tell me what a need to do to stop these people needlessly deleting my info? Let me know how to sort out the 'notability' problems Nradnedge (talk) 16:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Right i have now posted a note on the articles talk page explaining that it is all my own work and i've also posted a couple of link from other sites that use or talk about our club. I hope this is ok to stop people deleting the article and hopefully i can now re-edit the page?? Nradnedge (talk) 18:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

This user helped promote Buildings and architecture of Bath to good article status.

. Another green button for you! Well done. SilkTork *^YES! 11:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

I left a contribution for Hinkley Point to update an incorrect statement that someone posted that Hinkley Point had been granted planning permission to build a third nuclear reactor. This is not true and my post attempted to rectify that. It seems that you removed my contribution and I just wondered why you did that.

If you could let me know.

Thanks

PeteB IPC (talk) 09:39, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for letting me know. Sorry I wasn't aware there was a page for the third nuclear reactor.

Regards

PeteB IPC (talk) 12:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

im only putting what im reading!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madonplanes (talk • contribs) 22:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Rod, long time no speak. Thank you for correcting my supposition that the article was no longer required. When the page I posted earlier this evening was blanked with just a redirect sign at the top, (I was a bit surprised to say the least, as no comment was plcced on the talk page or the article to say this was to occur.) I followed it to the Soimerset main Article. My content on Geography had already been incorporated (in parts). A somewhat confusing experience followed. I have remeoved the article from the "to do" list on the project page. Hope you are well.Francis E Williams (talk) 21:59, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I'm not very active at present. I see no reason why both articles should not stand; there is bound to be a bit of overlap. Some of the bits from geology probably need to be moved to geography, for example the last few paragraphs. Pterre (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Rod, I have gone through all of these for WP Rivers. Thanks for pointing out my omission on the Brue - I was distracted by something at that point. I am planning work on all tributaries of the Bristol Avon over the next few weeks. Working on the right bank at the moment. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Leland Trail article for you to post. (If it`s any good)Francis E Williams (talk) 16:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The Leland Trail

Course

The Leland Trail, a 28 mile ( 45 kilometer) footpath in Somerset, exists between Alfred's Tower in Penelwood [ST745352] to Ham Hill Country Park [ST478172]. ^[1]

Creation

The path was established by creating rights of way via tracks and lanes. It is named after John Leland who visited South Somerset during the years 1535 - 1543. In his role as royal librarian, his journeys and tasks during that period were mapped out for him by King Henry VIII. His job was to reveal to the King all reference to "antiquities" and possesions of the local churches and priories. The exact route taken by John Leland over much of South Somerset may nver be known but what has remained of the records of the time now form the basis of the trail.

Sections

Typical all day walks (as detailed below) will allow the track to be traversed in manageable stages. Traditionally it is broken down into seven smaller parts, more details of these may be found online together with local accomodation, transport links and places to eat. ^[2]

Day one:- The early morning walk from Penselwood to Bruton, is fairly easy going for 5 miles (allow 3 hours). Then the journey onward to Castle Cary will take a little over 2 hours to cover the next 4 miles. For the more adventerous, (and early summer-time walker), the next stage to North Cadbury will add about another 2 hours to the journey. Queen Camel will probably be the final section for the day, and will involve another 4 miles walking in just over 2 hours.

Day two:- The intrepid may wish to continue the rest of the trail the following day. Leaving Queen Camel for Ilchester will cover mainly level ground in about 2 hours (at an average walking pace) for a distance of 5 miles. Montacute is the next "port of call" enroute, the slightly more difficult terrain will need well over two hours to complete the next 4 miles. Ham Hill, (the end of the trail) will be easily reached within the hour.

Places of Interest

The unusual forest of Penselwood. Bruton has its packhorse bridge, dovecote and famous twin-towered church. Near Castle Cary is Cadbury Castle whose summit offers a spectacular panorama of the South Somerset countryside. The busy military airfield at Yeovilton. At Ham Hill Country Park you can view Exmoor, the Quantocks, and the Bristol Channel. looking east is the trails starting point, Alfred's Tower.

Other Trails

The Leland Trail links with the Liberty Trail and the River Parrett Trail at Ham Hill.^{[3] [4] [5] [6]}

up to you Rod, after the last episode with "Geography", I`m playing it safe ! ..ha ha

Please go ahead with what ever you think will be best for wiki presentation, I`m quite happy to provide the basics and any sitable refs., you have put a lot of work into Somerset on Wiki. I don`t need / want the "brownie points". I just enjoy trying to help out (I don`t mean to load you up with work though)

Could I ask you to take another look at your revert on The Blue School, Wells, I believe you may have inadvertently put back the vandalism which had been previously removed.— Rod ^talk 22:29, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

You are correct, I undid my reversion. Thanks for the heads up. LeilaniLad (talk) 22:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

When I use the Edit function dialled shows up underlined. Somewhere there is a glitch in the program then.

EoGuy (talk) 15:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Rod, stop deleting Max Schubert's thing on Wells Blue School. He genuinely is a notable pupil. Leave the page how it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcfcbenny11 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Rod stop taking Max Schubert out of Wells Blue School, he is famous. If you got my other message i dont know if you did cos i didn't sign it. Bcfcbenny11 (talk) 17:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah right, no he isn't dead. Yeah i'll find something, didn't know that. Cheers Rod sorry if i sounded cross in last message! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcfcbenny11 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I was unaware that UK folks "spelt" it differently. When I use the Edit function dialled shows up underlined.

Bil

Thanks for correcting those. A major cock-up on my part. Wondered why I couldn't find the pub! Jezhotwells (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I like the PoI article. I took the liberty of adding Swineford Lock. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

This passed, so your FT(s) need more articles featured by 1 September 2010, or else they will become GTs - rst20xx (talk) 20:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Correct. The physical geography topic needs 1 more featured item. Sorry for the generic-ness of the message, it'd take me forever to notify everyone otherwise - rst20xx (talk) 21:01, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeh, that's fine. I'm not editing a lot at the minute and no one seems interested in the merge so go ahead. Fintan264 (talk) 17:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)