Википедия:Бәхәслек/Архив/01.2015-10.2015ВП:Проект:Төркемләү кысаларында яңадан-яңа туа торган низагъларны чишү буенча тәкъдимем. Фикерләрегез? -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 15 гый 2015, 10:18 (UTC)
ВП:Тел, ил, милләт нигезендә төркемләү кагыйдәсе проектларыПроект А (User:Әмир/Инглиз Википедиясе)
- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 18 гый 2015, 08:47 (UTC)
Проект Б (User:Derslek/Рус Википедиясе)Төркем:Милләтләре буенча язучылар, Төркем:Удмурт шәхесләре һәм башка төркемнәрне бетереп, бәйле үзгәртүләремне кире кагып, Татар интернеты мәкаләсе исемен Татар телле интернет буларак үзгәртүемне вандаллык дип атап, миңа яңадан тыю белән янап, Derslek 'югарыдагы проектка (A) үз каршылыгын белдерде дип уйлыйм. Түбәндәге версия милләт һәм милли газеталары өчен дөресрәкме әллә? -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 18 гый 2015, 20:30 (UTC)
-- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 18 гый 2015, 20:24 (UTC)
Гамәлдәге тәртип һәм дә югарыдагы Проект Б буенча үз сәяси эшчәнлекләрен рус телендә дә алып баручы Нурсолтан Назарбаев, Александр Лукашенко, Рөстәм Миңнеханов, Минтимер Шәймиев һәм башкаларны шулай ук Төркем:Рус сәясәтчеләре төркеменә дә кертү зарурдыр, мөгаен. - - frhdkazan (бәхәс) 19 гый 2015, 08:28 (UTC) Проект В (User:Kitap/Бәйсез ТатВики)
Хөрмәтле Kitap, мин аңлаган логика буенча ТатВикида
Авторитетлы чыганаклар тиешлегеМиңа Википедияга язарга комачаулаучы иң зур сәбәп бугай бу. Гадирәк әйберләрне язганда хәтта рус википедиясында да бер кем дә язуны төзәтми, татар википедиясында моның өчен бөтенләй беркем дә сүкмидер, әмма миңа эшләгән эшемнең формаль рәвештә дөрес булып чыгуы мөһим. Мин бер гап-гади генә җөмлә язсам да, аңа чыгынак китерергә тиеш. Бу гади генә эшне берничә тапкыр кыенлаштыра. Бу бөтен телдәге википедияларда шулай булырга тиешме соң? Татар википедиясы өчен бу шартны җиңелләштереп булмыймы? Мисаллар китереп карыйм. Мисал өчен, мин ай турында мәкалә язган идем. Менә хәзер дә шуны язасы булса, мин "Ай 29, 30 яки 31 көннән тора" дип язсам, мин уже берәр җирдән шушының турында авторитетлы чыганак эзләп табырга тиешмени?! --Qdinar (бәхәс) 29 гый 2015, 15:32 (UTC)
2+2=4 турында чыганак китерергә таләп ителми, тик бәхәсле сорау турында чыганак, ниндидер абруйлы сылтама кирәк. --Kitap (бәхәс) 29 гый 2015, 16:45 (UTC) Җәмгыятебезнең үсешенә багышланган Бәхәслекне техник мәсьәләләр белән тутырмас өчен, соңгылар өчен аерым бүлекне булдырдым, һәм бар Википедияләргә кагылышлы техник үзгәрешләр турындагы яңалыкларга багышланган Tech News бюллетенең киләчәктә анын бәхәс битенә килүен таләп иттем. Бу биттә тупланган бар иске Tech News чыгарышларын да анда күчерергә исәп. - frhdkazan (бәхәс) 24 фев 2015, 16:42 (UTC) Кече һәм яңа Википедияләр өчен кулланмаРусия телләрендәге Википедия бүлекләренә ярдәм итү күзлегеннән, Метадагы кулланучы битемә бу документның русчага тәрҗемәсен урнаштырдым - бәлкем безнең бүлегебезнең үсеше өчен дә файдалы дип табырсыз. Орфографик, грамматик яки стилистик хаталарны төзәтү өчен ачык. Тәрҗемә кабул ителерлек дип санасагыз, төп битләр фәзасына күчерә аласыз. Ихтирам белән, - frhdkazan (бәхәс) 25 фев 2015, 12:27 (UTC)
[Global proposal] m.Wikipedia.org: (барысы) Битләрне үзгәртү Hi, this message is to let you know that, on domains like tt.m.wikipedia.org, unregistered users cannot edit. At the Wikimedia Forum, where global configuration changes are normally discussed, a few dozens users propose to restore normal editing permissions on all mobile sites. Please read and comment! Thanks and sorry for writing in English, Nemo 1 мар 2015, 22:32 (UTC) Милләтебезнең бөтенлегенә яңа һөҗүм ясалганҮткән елда инкубаторда википедиянең «себертатар телендә» бүлеге ачылган икән. акылдан язган этләргә һәм маңкорт-монафикларга милләтнебезне таркатырга юл бирмик һәм бу чалателендәге бүлеген яптыруны таләп итик! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Siberian_Tatar_Wikipedia - бәхәс монда бара.
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Inspire Campaign: Improving diversity, improving contentThis March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 31. All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive, positive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign and help this project better represent the world’s knowledge! (Sorry for the English - please translate this message!) MediaWiki message delivery (бәхәс) 4 мар 2015, 20:02 (UTC) Научно-практическая конференция "Традиционная культура тюркских народов: проблемы и перспективы"Конференция (facebook, официальная новость) проходит в Канаше 9-11 апреля, оплачивается дорога и проживание утвержденных участников. Я заявился к участию от имени тюркских Википедий и членов проекта , приготовил аннотацию доклада (отправить необходимо до 13 марта), но по работе в даты мероприятия буду во Франции. Буду благодарен комментариям по улучшению аннотации (24 часа) и готовым представлять интересы тюркских Википедий на самом мероприятии. -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 11 мар 2015, 14:04 (UTC)
Feedback request: VisualEditor's special character inserterI apologize for writing in English. Please translate this message so that all of your editors can read it. Thank you! Hi everybody, my name is Erica, and I am a Community Liaison at the Wikimedia Foundation. I'm writing to you because the Editing team at WMF wants to know what you think about VisualEditor and its new ⧼visualeditor-specialcharacterinspector-title⧽ tool. This change will affect all users on about 50 Wikipedias, including your Wikipedia. Many editors at these Wikipedias need a special character tool to be able to write articles correctly, which is why we are asking you now. The new special character inserter tool is available in VisualEditor now. Admins at your wiki can change the contents by following the directions at mediawiki.org.  To test the ⧼visualeditor-specialcharacterinspector-title⧽ tool, please:
When the special character tool has been refined a little more based on your thoughts, we will offer VisualEditor by default to all editors at this wiki. If you want to help prepare, please read the advice on mediawiki.org. Thank you, Elitre (WMF) (talk) 12 мар 2015, 18:33 (UTC) SUL finalization updateHi all,apologies for writing in English, please read this page for important information and an update involving SUL finalization, scheduled to take place in one month. Thanks. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 13 мар 2015, 19:46 (UTC) мин конвертер ясыйм. бәлки сезнең раславыгыз булышырмин конвертерны 3 кечкенә текст белән генә тикшердем . аларны 1 файлга салып инетка куйдым. карагыз. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T27537#1126280 . ә https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/164049 адресында конвертер үзе. анда ничәдер кеше минем конвертерны расларга тиеш. --QDinar (бәхәс) 17 мар 2015, 20:13 (UTC)
Qdinar, Татарстан парламенты тарафыннан расланган кануннан өзекләрне китерәм, анда татар латин орфографиясенең җитди кагыйдәләре тасвирлана (ия - iä, ию - iü, ие - ie, ädäbiät, ğäyät h.b.):   ТатВикидә хәзер тик рәсми кагыйдәләр кулланыла, уйлап чыгарылган кагыйдәләр, әлифбалар кулланылмый.--Kitap (бәхәс) 17 апр 2015, 12:53 (UTC)
Татар латин орфографиясе бердәнбер булырга тиеш, бердәнбер язылыш. Әгәр шушы кагыйдәләр рәсми рәвештә расланган икән, без аларны үтәргә тиешбез, тик бу рәсми кагыйдәләр буенча язарга кирәк. Лаборатория - лабораториянең (нечкә кушымча нең һ.б.), һәм һәркайда ия - iä дип күчерелә: laboratoriä - laboratoriäneñ, biü, biüe (biüwe түгел). Гаять - нечкә сүз, сингармонизм буенча ğäyät, шулай ук Гает - Ğäyet, ләкин чыгармалар: гаилә - ğailä, кагыйдә - qağidä (ул сүзләр китерелгән).--Kitap (бәхәс) 17 апр 2015, 13:45 (UTC)
яңа тест ясадым, mw-tt-conv-2.txt ны карагыз, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T27537 дә. --QDinar (бәхәс) 26 апр 2015, 23:20 (UTC) Карадым (бәлки башка версияне?). Яңадан хата: ия - iyə килеп чыга (tərbiyəçese - хата, Gərəeva - хаталы, Gərəyeva булырга тиеш), шулай ук айлар исемләре хаталы языла, өстәге чыганакта бар айлар исемнәре китерелә (noyabr' түгел, noyəber), мөстакыйль - mөstәqil булырга тиеш.
яңа тестлар : https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164049/21/tests/phpunit/languages/classes/LanguageTtTest.php . 300 нче юлдан соңгылары актив түгел. хәзер конвертер бу тестларны үтә. --QDinar (бәхәс) 6 окт 2015, 17:56 (UTC) ийа булган очракта тагын бер сорау: анда да y ны төшереп калдырасы дигән кагыйдә юкмы? мисал өчен хәзер мин riya иттем. ә бәлки ул ria дип язылырга тиеш дигән кагыйдә бардыр, кем белә? әмма мин уйлыйм, андый кагыйдә юктыр, чөнки ria riya дан , iyä iä дән аерылганга караганда катырак аерыла.--QDinar (бәхәс) 8 окт 2015, 12:02 (UTC) тестта ğata'ullin riza'etdin дип язган идем әле, чөнки гарәпчәсендә ул апостроф урыннарында һәмзә бар. әмма хәзер ул апострофны бетерергә уйлыйм, ягъни хәзер кириллицада ничек - шулай итәргә. әмма гарәп сүзләрен барыбер теләгән кеше дөресләп язырга мөмкин инде, мисал өчен хәзер дә кемдер мөхәммәд дип ахырда д белән язадыр. --QDinar (бәхәс) 8 окт 2015, 12:07 (UTC)
мин уйлыйм, россия википедиягә россиядә татар латиницасын рекламалауны тыерга мөмкин, чөнки теге вакытта аны тыюның сәбәбе, аңлатмасы - россиядәге халыклар бердәмлеген саклау иде бугай ... --QDinar (бәхәс) 13 окт 2015, 18:04 (UTC) сез википедияда рәсми алфавитлар кулланасыз, гомумән, википедияда авторитетлы чыганаклар кулланыла. шулай итеп, сез китергән китап битләре туры килеп бетмидер әле, чөнки андагы алфавит рәсми рәвештә кулланылышка кермичә калды. әмма бер-ике-өч ел элек бер аз икенче алфавит кабул ителде, чит ил татарлары белән аралашу өчен, аның бер аз аермасы бар, шул аермаларның берсе - ə урынына ä кулланыла, хәтерләвемчә. миңа да шул алфавитны кулланырга кирәктер? алла бирса мин шулай итәм, ə урынына ä куям, һ. б. ... --QDinar (бәхәс) 13 окт 2015, 18:04 (UTC)
һәм гомумән, латинчага конвертер булсын иде дигән фикер инде әллә кайчан кабул ителгән: 2008-март: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Tatar_Wikipedia . 2009-сентябрь: Википедия:Интерфейсны_кириллик_язуга_күчерү . һәм анда да әле моның турында чынлап торып тавыш бирү булмаган, бары тик берничә кешенең фикере. ( тагын бер бәхәс ... - 2011-март : Бәхәс:Баш_бит/Архив_(2011)#Latin ) --QDinar (бәхәс) 13 окт 2015, 18:04 (UTC)
шәхсән минем үземә бу алфавит ошамый, ..... - монда мин бик күп яздым, ул язуларымны Кулланучы_бәхәсе:Qdinar#миңа хәзерге рәсми кабул ителгән татар латиницасы ошамый га күчерәм. --QDinar (бәхәс) 25 окт 2015, 04:10 (UTC) һәм, рәсми кабул ителгән әйберне кулланабыз дисез сез, әмма бит, бер караганда, энциклопедияның нинди алфавитта язылуы ул аерым нәрсә, (теге инглизчә әңгәмәдә дә бер кеше шундый фикер әйтә: "No original research is a principle for content. Script is not original research, but original language development. Original language development can't be avoided in some languages. For example a language who never created non-literary text or even no text at all (that's most of all languages on he world) will experience development through creating a wikipedia in it in any case. ..." ) , әмма килешәм, энциклопедиялар чын, кеше кабул иткән язу белән язылырга тиештер инде, алай булмаса ул ничектер җитди булып тоелмый. әмма бу латин алфавитын кабул итүчеләр кемнәр соң? - татарстан фәннәр академиясендәге тел институтыдыр. алар халык белән киңәшләштеме соң? мәгариф журналларында альтернатив алфавитлар тәкъдим итүчеләр, тәнкыйть язучылар булдымы? татарстан фәннәр академиясендәге тел институты, татарстан парламенты бөтен татар халкы өчен карар кыла аламы соң? мин уйлыйм алар үзләре генә андый рольдә бик үк легитим түгел, шуңа күрә халык белән киңәшләшү кирәк. татарстан бит ул бары тик россия регионы, институты бары тик бер институт, һәм татарстанда татар халкының 4 тән 1 өлеше тора диләр. --QDinar (бәхәс) 13 окт 2015, 18:04 (UTC)
яңа тестлар: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164049/32/tests/phpunit/languages/classes/LanguageTtTest.php , 105-620 нче юллар. --QDinar (бәхәс) 16 окт 2015, 19:13 (UTC) кирилл -> латин юнәлешендә өстәлгән тестларны ясап бетердем. боларын озак ясадым, чөнки программаны үзгәртеп алыштыруларны яңадан яза башларга туры килде, чөнки элеккечә барганда мин инде алыштырулар арасында адашып беткән идем. хәзерге тестлар, программа. икътисадый, иҗтимагый сүзләрен iqtisadi итеп ахырда и белән язу кагыйдәсен үтәмәдем, чөнки, бу кагыйдә уйланып бетелмәгән: икътисадыенда булса, iqtisadiendä диеп үзгәртергә туры килер иде, ул шактый кыен, һәм үзгәрткән очракта да ул дөрес булмас иде, чөнки аның ахыры, куымчалары гына алай нечкәртелеп әйтелми. әмма, икътисади дип кириллицада ук ахырда и белән язылган булса, ул iqtisadi га әйләндерелә. --QDinar (бәхәс) 1 дек 2015, 12:24 (UTC) хәзер тестлар ике юнәлештә дә үтелә. хәзерге тестлар һәм конвертер https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/164049/ да "Patch Set 57" дә. --QDinar (бәхәс) 4 дек 2015, 17:08 (UTC) өстәрәк "Tatar telenen orfografiase 10.jpg" та күрсәтелгән июнь, июль язылышы турында нәрсә уйлыйсыз? ни өчен ию iü дип языла , ә июль iyül дип языла? миңа бу ошамый. бу хатадыр. "Tatar telenen orfografiase 06.jpg" битендә язган, iä, iäk, orfografiä кебек сүзләрдә iyä iä дип языла дип. бу кагыйдә и белән ә генә кагыла микән ни. и белән ү гә, и белән э гә кагылмый микән ни. тагын әле и белән ә очрагына да искәрмәләр бар ди. Кулланучы:Kitap, син моның башка битләрен дә куймыйсыңмы? --QDinar (бәхәс) 7 дек 2015, 11:18 (UTC)
 ию һәрбер очракта iü итеп күчерелә, тик чыгармалар бар: июнь - iyün, июль - iyül (ул очраклар өстәрәк рәсемдә китерелгән). Шулай ук охшаш кагыйдә Ие дифтонгына кагыла, ие һаман ie итеп күчерелә:  --Kitap (бәхәс) 7 дек 2015, 12:42 (UTC) сүз вариантларыВикипедия бәхәсе:Латин язуында сүз вариантлары га күчердем --QDinar (бәхәс) 2 фев 2016, 11:29 (UTC) ТатаВикинең кагыйдәләреТатар латин әлифбасында тулы сингармонизмга (аеруча нечкә сингармонизмга) өстенлек бирелә, шуңа күрә кабул ителгән канунда: ädäbiät, sälämätlek, qiäfät, xiänät , кайбер сүзләрдә тулы булмаган сингармонизм саклана: wasiät, wazğiät, tabiğät. Бу кагыйдәләр рәсми канунда расланган (өстәрәк күчермәләр китерелгән), яңа һәвәскәр әлибфаларын, кагыйдәләрен уйлап чыгарга кирәкми, югыйсә янә орфографик бардак килеп чыгыр. Яхшы эшли торган конвертор бар инде: http://talat.h19.ru/TatLat-My.php. ТатВикидә кирил-латин төп рәсми кагыйдәләре бар инде: кирил һәм латин әлифбалары тигез хокуклы, тик төркемнәр атамалары кирилча гына булырга тиеш һәм мәкалә игезәкләре тыела, шуңа күрә хәзер ТатВикигә махсус әйләндергеч кирәкми диярлек, ул әлбәттә, комачауламас, ләкин бу иң кирәкле әйбер түгел. --Kitap (бәхәс) 20 дек 2015, 10:27 (UTC) мин ясый торган конвертер медиавикиның өлеше була һәм автоматик рәвештә бөтен мәкаләләрне дөрес итеп әйләндерергә тиеш була. ләкин бөтен әйберне дөрес итеп әйләндерсен өчен текстка махсус өстәмә тамгалар өстәргә кирәк була. мисал өчен болай: Александровка<rus /> авылы, Александров<rus />ка әйтү, <rus /> тамгасы рус авазлы өлешнең тәмамлануын аңлата, беренчесе Aleksandrovka , икенчесе Aleksandrovqa итеп әйләндерелергә тиеш. ләкин бу махсус тамгалар программаланмаган әле, алла бирса, мин аны ясыйм.
"Яхшы эшли торган конвертор" дигәнгә бер комментарий, дәлил, документ язасым килә. син күрсәткән конвертерга мин ясаган конвертерның бер тестын "ашатып" карыйм. мин тестка шушылай булырга тиеш дип куйдым: klub ğämle ğäme ğäm berqaydan da wikimäğlümat mäqälä dähliğa karamzin http://talat.h19.ru/Cyr-Lat-My.php болай әйләндерде: klub ğämle ğäme ğäm berqaydan da wikimäğlümat mäqälä dähliga qaramzin монда нинди хаталар бар: wikimäğlümat (син әйттең, нечкә булырга тиеш дип), dähliga, qaramzin, ğdan'sq , wikipediänı , ğibadätxanäse, firdäws , bawarlar, franq, aqtın, yädqär, qawfman , bolğariä moldawiä һәм башкалар. минем конвертер да менә бу тесттагы җыен сүзләрдә хата ясый иде, бер атна тирәсе элек. шулай итеп, бу син әйткән конвертерның урыс һәм гарәп (һәм фарсы) теленнән кергән сүзләрдә хаталар ясавы күренә. --QDinar (бәхәс) 20 дек 2015, 11:40 (UTC) хәзер син язган сүзнең төп темасы буенча җавап бирәм. "кайбер сүзләрдә тулы булмаган сингармонизм саклана: wasiät, wazğiät, tabiğät" - шулай булгач, синең минем белән каршылыгың юк, бу сүзләреңне бөтенләй язып тормасаң да була иде. чөнки мин дә нәкъ менә шуның турында әйттем : кайбер сүзләр башкача языла. әмма кайсы сүзләр соң ул кайбер сүзләр? синең ул 2-3 китап битендә бу сүзләрнең барысы да юк бит. --QDinar (бәхәс) 20 дек 2015, 11:53 (UTC)
бу "бәхәс" нең дәвамы : Википедия_бәхәсе:Җәмгыять_үзәге#латинчага әйләндергеч ясау эше барышы - шунда язырга тәкъдим итәм, әмма, монда да мондагы фикерләргә җаваплар язырга буладыр. --QDinar (бәхәс) 2 фев 2016, 12:01 (UTC) VisualEditor coming to this wiki Hello again. Please excuse the English. I would be grateful if you can translate this message! VisualEditor is coming to all editors at this Wikipedia on Monday, March 30th. Күрсәтмә төзәткеч is software that allows people to edit articles without needing to learn wikitext code (like typing [[ to start a link). You don't have to wait until the deployment to test it; you can test Күрсәтмә төзәткеч right now. To turn it on, select "Beta" in your preferences. Choose "Күрсәтмә төзәткеч" and click save. Now, when you press the "Үзгәртү" button to edit an article, you will get the new VisualEditor software. To use the wikitext editor, you can press "Вики-текстны үзгәртү". (After the deployment, everyone will automatically have the option to use either VisualEditor or the current wikitext editor.) For more information about how to use VisualEditor, see mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide. More information about preparing for VisualEditor is posted here.
VisualEditor now active here Hello again (and again, apologies for using English on this page. Please do translate my message, if you can!). As some of you have noticed, this Wikipedia now has Күрсәтмә төзәткеч (VisualEditor or "VE") enabled for all users. There are now two tabs for editing: "Үзгәртү" and "Вики-текстны үзгәртү". Click "Үзгәртү" to use VisualEditor. Click "Вики-текстны үзгәртү" to edit using wikitext markup. All edits using VisualEditor will be tagged with "Tag:Күрсәтмә төзәткеч" in recent changes, watchlists, and page histories. To access the User Guide for VisualEditor, click on the "(?)" icon in VisualEditor's toolbar. If you wish to disable VisualEditor, this can be done under "Editing" in your preferences. Please report any software "bugs" or errors you find at MediaWiki’s VisualEditor Feedback page. Translations for the user interface and its help guide are still needed: you can learn how to support your community with this and other tasks at this instructions page. Please contact me if you need further help though. Happy editing, User:Elitre (WMF) (talk) 30 мар 2015, 15:09 (UTC) Международная конференция «Википедия и информационное общество»ТатВики эшләре турында чыгыш тезисларым белән монда танышып була. -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 30 мар 2015, 23:25 (UTC)
комментарий Текстны укып чыгуга бер генә сорау туарга мөмкин - автор ни әйтергә теләгән икән? Әгәр суын сыгып алсаң - бер генә тезис кала: бар төрле прогресс, нанокиләчәк, алгарыш-безбулдырабызлар каршында бер генә киртә тора. Димәк, текст кискен тәнкыйть формасын йөртә, авторның тоташ канәгатьсезлеген белдерә. Ә шәхси тәнкыйтьтән башка нәрсә тәкъдим итә автор? Монда уңышлар да, җитешсезлекләр дә күрсәтелмәгән (аларны күрер өчен аек акыл һәм татар телен белү кирәк бит). Нотыкка карата бер генә хуплау тавышы да ишетелмәгәнлектән, мин шундый текст тотып Татар википедиясе исеменнән чыгыш ясауга каршы. Тагын шуны да искәртәм: авторның «халыкара трибунага» чыгып хакын даулап йөрүләре элегрәк бик хурлыклы рәвештә тәмаланган: [1] һ.б. - Derslek (бәхәс) 7 апр 2015, 05:26 (UTC)
Википедиянең татар бүлеген таныту материалларыВикипедияне таныту материалларын минекеннән дөресрәк татар теленә тәрҗемә итү белән ярдәм итүче табылмас мы арабызда? Һич булмаса, минем тәрҗемәләремне төзәтә алучы кирәк булыр мөгаен. Марат әфәнде әйткән кайбер сүзләре дөрес - татарчага караганда, эш буенча соңгы фәнни һәм энциклопедик материалларны күбрәк инглизчә генә таба алам, матур әдәбияткә исә вакыт бөтенләй юк диярлек. ТатВики сыйфатын русчасыныкына кадәр күтәрүебезгә кадәр хәлнең үзгәрелүен көтеп булмый. Татарча яхшы белүче лириклар үзгәрешләрнең тизрәк урын алуын телиләр икән, төгәл фәннәр өлкәсендәгеләргә ярдәм итүләре кирәклеге сизелә ... -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 31 мар 2015, 20:23 (UTC)
Википедиянең бүлекләре хәлеВикипедия:Төрки халыклар телләрендәге Википедияләр битендәге таблицага аналитик баганалар өстәдем:
Шул ук күрсәткечләр буенча хәзер Википедия:Русия халыклары телләрендәге Википедияләрне дә чагыштырырга була. -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 7 апр 2015, 14:49 (UTC)
Stewards confirmation rulesHello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 10 апр 2015, 16:12 (UTC) VisualEditor News #2—2015
With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor. Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator. The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal. Recent improvementsVisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%. The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website. Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki. The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users. The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images. You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page. The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item. Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings. Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734) Looking aheadThe special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org. The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666) Let's work together
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta. If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! 10 апр 2015, 19:48 (UTC) ContentTranslationЗдравствуйте, Я предлагаю установить здесь инструмент ContentTranslation, который разрабатывает моя группа. Инструмент помогает переводить статьи с языка на язык, со следующими вспомогательными добавками:
Инструмент будет включен в режиме бета. Когда перевод статьи готов, она публикуется как обычная статья, и её можно улучшать дальше. Я собираюсь дать об этом инструменте лекцию на Вики-Сабантуе в Уфе, и будет хорошо, если до тех пор он уже будет здесь работать. Чтобы попробовать, сделайте следующее:
Страница будет опубликована на сайте http://ru.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org . Можно переписать её сюда. Когда инструмент будет установлен здесь, то страницы будут публиковаться прямо здесь. Будем очень рады получить ваши отзывы! --Amir E. Aharoni (бәхәс) 12 апр 2015, 13:15 (UTC)
This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available. .svg){kind=logo} Greetings, I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process. This year, elections are being held for the following roles: Board of Trustees Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 20 to 23:59 UTC May 5 for the Board and from 00:00 UTCApril 20 to 23:59 UTC April 30 for the FDC and FDC Ombudsperson. This year, we are accepting both self-nominations and nominations of others. More information on this election and the nomination process can be found on the 2015 Wikimedia elections page on Meta-Wiki. Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections -at- wikimedia.org On behalf of the Elections Committee, Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 05:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help ContentTranslation теперь работаетЗдравствуйте, Инструмент Content Translation был включен как бета-функция в Татарской Википедии. Чтобы переводить, включите бета-функцию и пройдите на страницу вашего вклада или прямо на страницу перевода, выберите язык, с которого вы переводите, и напишите название статьи, которую вы хотите перевести. Если такая статья уже есть на вашем языке, будет показано предупреждение. Когда вы закончите писать перевод, вы можете опубликовать её как полноценную страницу в Татарской Википедии. Если страница с таким же названием будет создана пока вы переводите, вам будет предложено сохранить ваш перевод как черновик в вашем пространстве пользователя. Количество созданных статей показано на странице статистики. Это первая проба этого инструмента на вашем языке, и возможно, что вы обнаружите неисправности, о которых мы ещё не знаем. Мы будем отслеживать как инструмент используется здесь, но мы просим вас сообщать нам о найденных вами неисправностях на странице обсуждения, или через Фабрикатор. Вы можете найти дополнительную информацию на странице описания проекта. Спасибо! --Amir E. Aharoni (бәхәс) 22 апр 2015, 19:40 (UTC) Tatarça Wikipediädä çit tellärdäge bannerlarnıñ qalqıp çığuları / Татарча Википедиядә чит телләрдәге баннерларның калкып чыгуларыQärdäşlär, Wikipediäbezneñ baş bitendә (һ.b. sәxifälärendä) çit teldә yazılğan bannerlar qalqıp çığa (mäsälän, urısça). Bu Tatarça Wikipediä proyektına zıyan kiterә. Anı niçek xäl itep bula? Tärcemә itep qaradım - һaman tatarça kürenmi.. Кардәшләр, Википедиябезнең баш битендә (һ.б. сәхифәләрендә) чит телдә язылган баннерлар калкып чыга (мәсәлән, урысча). Бу Татарча Википедия проектына зыян китерә. Аны ничек хәл итеп була? Тәрҗемә итеп карадым - һаман татарча күренми.. --Milli (бәхәс) 24 апр 2015, 05:34 (UTC) Вики-премия 2015: ТатВики 
 This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available. Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) and FDC Ombudsperson will continue during the voting. Nominations for the Board of Trustees will be accepted until 23:59 UTC May 5. The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions on the committee being filled. The FDC Ombudsperson receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled. The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 3 to 23:59 UTC May 10. Click here to vote. Questions and discussion with the candidates will continue during that time. Click here to ask the FDC candidates a question. Click here to ask the FDC Ombudsperson candidates a question. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 FDC election page, the 2015 FDC Ombudsperson election page, and the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki. On behalf of the Elections Committee, Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 03:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2015)Apologies for writing in English, please help translate this into your local language. Hello Wikimedians! Today The Wikipedia Library announces signups for more free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, JSTOR, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
 This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available. Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting. The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons. The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki. On behalf of the Elections Committee, Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 17:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help Татнетны үстерү фонды мөрәҗәгатеХәерле көн! Хәзер кемнәр эшли татар википедиясендә? Рашатны гына белә идем, башкаларны белмим әлегә. Татар википедиясен үстерүнең берәр профессиональ планын төзергә кирәк. Әйдәгез, бер кунакка килегез. http://tat-i.net/tt/address Раил Гатауллин
Заливка НП ТатарстанаКак относитесь к заливке населенных пунктов Татарстана в в этой Вики? В Чеченвики заливали. Там есть база. В этой вики шаблон НП есть? Где можно подать заявку тут на статус бота?--Kaiyr (бәхәс) 30 май 2015, 14:52 (UTC)
Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot coreSorry for English, I hope someone translates this. There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break. Thank you, VisualEditor News #3—2015Did you know? When you click on a link to an article, you now see more information:
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has created new interfaces for the link and citation tools and fixed many bugs and changed some elements of the design. Some of these bugs affected users of VisualEditor on mobile devices. Status reports are posted on mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator. A test of VisualEditor's effect on new editors at the English Wikipedia has just completed the first phase. During this test, half of newly registered editors had VisualEditor automatically enabled, and half did not. The main goal of the study is to learn which group was more likely to save an edit and to make productive, unreverted edits. Initial results will be posted at Meta later this month. Recent improvementsAuto-fill features for citations are available at a few Wikipedias through the citoid service. Citoid takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. If Citoid is enabled on your wiki, then the design of the citation workflow changed during May. All citations are now created inside a single tool. Inside that tool, choose the tab you want (⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-auto⧽, ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-manual⧽, or ⧼citoid-citeFromIDDialog-mode-reuse⧽). The cite button is now labeled with the word "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" rather than a book icon, and the autofill citation dialog now has a more meaningful label, "⧼Citoid-citeFromIDDialog-lookup-button⧽", for the submit button. The link tool has been redesigned based on feedback from Wikipedia editors and user testing. It now has two separate sections: one for links to articles and one for external links. When you select a link, its pop-up context menu shows the name of the linked page, a thumbnail image from the linked page, Wikidata's description, and appropriate icons for disambiguation pages, redirect pages and empty pages (where applicable). Search results have been reduced to the first five pages. Several bugs were fixed, including a dark highlight that appeared over the first match in the link inspector. (T98085) The special character inserter in VisualEditor now uses the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki can also create a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Please read the instructions for customizing the list at mediawiki.org. Also, there is now a tooltip to describing each character in the special character inserter. (T70425) Several improvements have been made to templates. When you search for a template to insert, the list of results now contains descriptions of the templates. The parameter list inside the template dialog now remains open after inserting a parameter from the list, so that users don’t need to click on "⧼visualeditor-dialog-transclusion-add-param⧽" each time they want to add another parameter. (T95696) The team added a new property for TemplateData, "Мисал", for template parameters. This optional, translatable property will show up when there is text describing how to use that parameter. (T53049) The design of the main toolbar and several other elements have changed slightly, to be consistent with the MediaWiki theme. In the Vector skin, individual items in the menu are separated visually by pale gray bars. Buttons and menus on the toolbar can now contain both an icon and a text label, rather than just one or the other. This new design feature is being used for the cite button on wikis where the Citoid service is enabled. The team has released a long-desired improvement to the handling of non-existent images. If a non-existent image is linked in an article, then it is now visible in VisualEditor and can be selected, edited, replaced, or removed. Let's work together
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta. If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! 13 июн 2015, 10:44 (UTC) New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (June 2015)Hello Wikimedians! Today The Wikipedia Library announces signups for more free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
New French-Language Branch!
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including an expansion of accounts for Royal Society journals and remaining accounts on Project MUSE, JSTOR, DeGruyter, Highbeam Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. If you have suggestions for journals or databases we should seek access to make a request! Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
HTTPSApologies for writing in English. Hi everyone. Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals. Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified. Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions. 19 июн 2015, 22:00 (UTC) Please join the 2nd edition of the VisualEditor Translathon Hello! I'm pleased to announce the 2nd edition of the VisualEditor Translathon. It is a translation rally, focused on interface messages and help pages related to VisualEditor. In order to participate, you need to sign up on the Translathon page on TranslateWiki. The top 3 contributors will each win a Wikipedia t-shirt of their choice from the Wikipedia store[1]. Translations made between July 15th and July 19th (CDT time zone) qualify[2]. If you are at Wikimania Mexico this year, you are also welcome to join a related sprint during the hackathon in Workplace 1 - Don Américo, Thursday 16 July at 4pm (CDT) at the conference venue, so you can meet other fellow translators and get support if you need some. Interface messages have the priority. You will need to create an account at translatewiki.net in order to work on them, if you don't have one. It is recommended to create the account ASAP, so that it can be confirmed in time. You can also help translate documentation pages about VisualEditor on mediawiki.org. You can use your Wikipedia account to work there. You will find instructions, links and other details on the Translathon page. Thanks for your attention, and happy translating! Казакъча-татарча тәрҗемәСәлам, дуслар! Берникадәр вакыт элек Amir Aharoni Content Translation кулланмасы турында язган булган (өстәрәк карагыз). Шул уңайдан берничә сүз әйтәсе килә. Content Translation'ны кулланып, теләсә кайсы телдән татарчага тәрҗемә итеп була. Әмма әлегә бердәнбер тел — казакъ теле өчен — автоматик тәрҗемә дә тәкъдим ителә. Мин бу тәрҗемә системасын ясауда катнашучыларның берсе. Әлегә тәрҗемәче өстендә актив эшләүче кешеләр булмаса да, аны кулланып язылган мәкаләләр хаталарны төзәтү өчен бик файдалы мәгълүмат бирә. Тәрҗемәче идеаль түгел, шактый хаталар ясый (бигрәк тә стилистик хаталар), шулай да автоматик тәрҗемә нәтиҗәсен төзәтү мәкаләне тулысынча үзеңә тәрҗемә итүдән тизрәк булырга охшый. Кызыксынган кешеләр тикшереп карасыннар. Тылмачларга ярдәмгә sozdik.kz сайтында казакъча-русча сүзлек тә бар.--IlnarSelimcan (бәхәс) 15 июл 2015, 18:51 (UTC) ИскәрмәләрProposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images-3-phenyl-cyclohexanone.gif) -3-phenyl-cyclohexanone.png) There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side) This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (бәхәс) 24 июл 2015, 05:07 (UTC) Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF imagesThere is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side) This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (бәхәс) 24 июл 2015, 07:20 (UTC) What does a Healthy Community look like to you? Hi, Why get involved?The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
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What does a Healthy Community look like to you?Hi, Why get involved?The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
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Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is coming(Sorry for writing in English) When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects, there is currently a limitation in place that hinders some use cases: data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So, for example, the Wikipedia article about Berlin can only get data from the Wikidata item about Berlin but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. We are now removing this limitation. It is already done for many projects. Your project is one of the next ones. We will roll out this feature here on August 12. We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to d:Wikidata:Contact the development team. A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a single page. If it is too many pages, loading might get slow. We will have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need to tweak and how. How to use it, once it is enabled:
Cheers Lydia Pintscher MediaWiki message delivery (бәхәс) 3 авг 2015, 17:46 (UTC) Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is coming(Sorry for writing in English) When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects, there is currently a limitation in place that hinders some use cases: data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So, for example, the Wikipedia article about Berlin can only get data from the Wikidata item about Berlin but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. We are now removing this limitation. It is already done for many projects. Your project is one of the next ones. We will roll out this feature here on August 12. We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to d:Wikidata:Contact the development team. A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a single page. If it is too many pages, loading might get slow. We will have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need to tweak and how. How to use it, once it is enabled:
Cheers Lydia Pintscher MediaWiki message delivery (бәхәс) 3 авг 2015, 18:58 (UTC) Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is here(Sorry for writing in English) Hi everyone, As I have previously announced here we have now enabled the arbitrary access feature here. This means from now on you can make use of data from any Wikidata item in any article here. Before you could for example only access data about Berlin in the article about Berlin. If you want to find out more or have questions please come to d:Wikidata:Arbitrary access. I hope this will open up great possibilities for you and make your work easier. Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 12 авг 2015, 13:32 (UTC) VisualEditor News #4—2015Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter Did you know? You can add quotations marks before and after a title or phrase with a single click. Select the relevant text. Find the correct quotations marks in the special character inserter tool (marked as Ω in the toolbar). 
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices. WikimaniaThe team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing. Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi. For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%). For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%). There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%). We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. We thank the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative. Recent improvementsAuto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Wikipedia. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org. Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software. Future changesThe team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not. On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments. Let's work together
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF), 14 авг 2015, 22:28 (UTC) VisualEditor News #4—2015Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter Did you know? You can add quotations marks before and after a title or phrase with a single click. Select the relevant text. Find the correct quotations marks in the special character inserter tool (marked as Ω in the toolbar).
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team have been working on mobile phone support. They have fixed many bugs and improved language support. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving language support and functionality on mobile devices. WikimaniaThe team attended Wikimania 2015 in Mexico City. There they participated in the Hackathon and met with individuals and groups of users. They also made several presentations about VisualEditor and the future of editing. Following Wikimania, we announced winners for the VisualEditor 2015 Translathon. Our thanks and congratulations to users Halan-tul, Renessaince, जनक राज भट्ट (Janak Bhatta), Vahe Gharakhanyan, Warrakkk, and Eduardogobi. For interface messages (translated at translatewiki.net), we saw the initiative affecting 42 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 56.5% before the translathon, and 78.2% after (+21.7%). In particular, Sakha improved from 12.2% to 94.2%; Brazilian Portuguese went from 50.6% to 100%; Taraškievica went from 44.9% to 85.3%; Doteli went from 1.3% to 41.2%. Also, while 1.7% of the messages were outdated across all languages before the translathon, the percentage dropped to 0.8% afterwards (-0.9%). For documentation messages (on mediawiki.org), we saw the initiative affecting 24 languages. The average progress in translations across all languages was 26.6% before translathon, and 46.9% after (+20.3%). There were particularly notable achievements for three languages. Armenian improved from 1% to 99%; Swedish, from 21% to 99%, and Brazilian Portuguese, from 34% to 83%. Outdated translations across all languages were reduced from 8.4% before translathon to 4.8% afterwards (-3.6%). We published some graphs showing the effect of the event on the Translathon page. We thank the translators for participating and the translatewiki.net staff for facilitating this initiative. Recent improvementsAuto-fill features for citations can be enabled on each Wikipedia. The tool uses the citoid service to convert a URL or DOI into a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. You can see an animated GIF of the quick, simple process at mediawiki.org. So far, about a dozen Wikipedias have enabled the auto-citation tool. To enable it for your wiki, follow the instructions at mediawiki.org. Your wiki can customize the first section of the special character inserter in VisualEditor. Please follow the instructions at mediawiki.org to put the characters you want at the top. In other changes, if you need to fill in a CAPTCHA and get it wrong, then you can click to get a new one to complete. VisualEditor can now display and edit Vega-based graphs. If you use the Monobook skin, VisualEditor's appearance is now more consistent with other software. Future changesThe team will be changing the appearance of selected links inside VisualEditor. The purpose is to make it easy to see whether your cursor is inside or outside the link. When you select a link, the link label (the words shown on the page) will be enclosed in a faint box. If you place your cursor inside the box, then your changes to the link label will be part of the link. If you place your cursor outside the box, then it will not. This will make it easy to know when new characters will be added to the link and when they will not. On the English Wikipedia, 10% of newly created accounts are now offered both the visual and the wikitext editors. A recent controlled trial showed no significant difference in survival or productivity for new users in the short term. New users with access to VisualEditor were very slightly less likely to produce results that needed reverting. You can learn more about this by watching a video of the July 2015 Wikimedia Research Showcase. The proportion of new accounts with access to both editing environments will be gradually increased over time. Eventually all new users have the choice between the two editing environments. Let's work together
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! —Elitre (WMF), 15 авг 2015, 00:05 (UTC) How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can. Hello, The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:
Feedback is welcome in any language. With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. (Opt-out Instructions) This message was sent by I JethroBT (WMF) through MediaWiki message delivery. 19 авг 2015, 00:13 (UTC) Introducing the Wikimedia public policy siteHi all, We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission. Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/ Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog. Thanks, Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2 сен 2015, 18:12 (UTC) (Sent with the Global message delivery system) Introducing the Wikimedia public policy siteHi all, We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission. Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/ Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog. Thanks, Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2 сен 2015, 19:14 (UTC) (Sent with the Global message delivery system) Open call for Individual Engagement GrantsMy apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can. Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
Thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 4 сен 2015, 20:52 (UTC) (Opt-out Instructions) This message was sent by I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) through MediaWiki message delivery. Open call for Individual Engagement GrantsMy apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can. Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
Thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 4 сен 2015, 21:53 (UTC) (Opt-out Instructions) This message was sent by I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) through MediaWiki message delivery. Википедия форматлавы буенча кыскача белешмәлек - татарча  Әфәнделәр, Татар Википедиясен популярлаштыру һәм үстерү максатларыннан, дөньядагы бар татар телендә эшләүче үзәкләренә, клубларына, мәктәп һәм югары уку йортлары кафедраларына А4 форматындагы игълан килеш Кыскача Википедия форматлау белешмәлеген тарату фикере туган иде (кирил һәм латин имләсендә версияләрендә). Бөтендөнья татар конгрессы, Татарстан хөкүмәте/мәгариф министрлыгы һәм социаль челтәрләр аркылы эшләнә алырлык хәл. Без исә яңа кулланучыларны кабул итү өчен әзер. Рус үрнәгеннән чыгып, татарчасын әзерләдем - Кулланучы:Frhdkazan/Lab һәм meta:WMDOC/Cheatsheet/tt. Aны бастыруга әзерләү - терминнар, грамматика һәм стилистика ягыннан төзәтү - буенча ярдәмегез кирәк. Алдан ук рәхмәт. ВикимедиаРу вәкилләре верстка белән ярдәм итәргә тәкъдим иткән иделәр. -- frhdkazan (бәхәс) 6 сен 2015, 17:53 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Database Access (September 2015)Hello Wikimedians! The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including expanded accounts for Elsevier ScienceDirect, British Medical Journal and Dynamed and additional accounts for Project MUSE, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com, Highbeam and HeinOnline. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
New Wikipedia Library Database Access (September 2015)Hello Wikimedians! The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including expanded accounts for Elsevier ScienceDirect, British Medical Journal and Dynamed and additional accounts for Project MUSE, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com, Highbeam and HeinOnline. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
Марсель СәлимовҺаумыһығыҙ. ba:Марсель Сәлимов мәҡәләһен тәржемә итеп Татар Википедияһына ҡуйығыҙ әле зинһар. --Рөстәм Нурыев (бәхәс) 18 сен 2015, 13:04 (UTC)
Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!(Apologies for using English below, please help translate if you are able.) There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 22 сен 2015, 21:01 (UTC) Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!(Apologies for using English below, please help translate if you are able.) There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.
I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 22 сен 2015, 22:14 (UTC) Reimagining WMF grants report(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.) Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available. Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page. With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 28 сен 2015, 16:56 (UTC) 5нче ? 5 нче? 5-нче?ни өчен сез википедияда "5-нче" дип яза башлагансыз ул? татар әдәби теле орфографиясендә ул "5 нче" бугай бит? --QDinar (бәхәс) 6 окт 2015, 15:58 (UTC)
Википедияла Азия айлығыНоябрь айында Википедияла Азия айлығы халыҡ-ара викимарафон ойошторола. Башҡорт Википедияһы марафонға ҡушылды. Татар Википедияһын да саҡырабыҙ. Күп ҡатнашыусы — күберәк сифатлы мәҡәлә! Ҡушылығыҙ! --Рөстәм Нурыев (бәхәс) 25 окт 2015, 17:14 (UTC) VisualEditor News #5—2015Read this in another language • Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter Did you know?
You can use the visual editor on smartphones and tablets.  Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Переключиться на визуальный редактор". The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months.
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading. Recent improvementsEducational features: The first time ever you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Сылтама and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned. Links: It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108, T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558) These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool. Uploads: Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Кертеп кую Сурәтләр һәм медиа" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later. Mobile: Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use it on all devices regardless of size if they wish. (T85630) Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Бетерү" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now. Rich editing tools: You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925) There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227, T113354) When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming. On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences. Future changesYou will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Үзгәртү" and "Вики-текстны үзгәртү" tabs into a single "Үзгәртү" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Үзгәртү" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Let's work together
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